If you need to use floppy disks on Athena workstations (such as if you run out of space or need a personal backup), here's how: If you will be using the 5.25'' floppies: You should buy High Density floppy disks; they can hold 1.2 megabytes, and are usable ONLY on IBM RT's. (Be sure not to buy double-density disks by mistake.) To format the disks, login onto a RT workstation, and type: /etc/fdformat -h /dev/rfd0 Answer 'yes' when it asks you whether you want to format the disk. Formatting the disk will destroy any information already on it. If you will be using 3.5'' HD flopppies: You should buy brand-name Double-Sided, High Density floppies. (They will have two little tiny square-ish notches on the bottom of the floppy.) These floppies, when formatted, hold 1.44 megabytes. They are usable on the VAXstation 3100, DECstation 5000/25, and IBM RS/6000 workstations. It is now possible for you to format the floppies on Athena. All you need to do is use an RS/6000 workstation. Insert the floppy into the drive, and at the athena% prompt type: format For more information about this command type man format Note that this will work on the RS/6000 workstations ONLY! If you will be using 3.5'' *ED* floppies: These are higher-density disks, which may only be used on the DECstation 5000/25 (Maxine) machines. You can format ED disks for up to 2.88 megabyte capacity. At your athena% prompt type: fddisk -fmt /dev/rfd0a To format a floppy disk in drive zero when the disk has been read or written since it was inserted into the drive: fddisk -fmt -f /dev/rfd0a For more information on the fddisk command, type man fddisk at the athena% prompt on a Maxine. Any of these formatting commands will, of course erase any information that was on the disk. If you cannot access an RS/6000 workstation, or Maxine, and have no access to a PS/2 or another MS-DOS machine with a HD 3.5'' drive, you will not be able to format these disks yourself. Instead, come to the Athena Consultants' Office (1st floor N42) during the hours we are open, and we will format the disk for you. You can find out when we're open by calling x3-4435. Once the disk is formatted, you can copy information to it in tar format. You can also use the MTOOLS suite of commands. (Note, however, that the dosread and doswrite commands will NOT work.) If you want to use mtools with ED disks, use the following command to format the disk: add mtools mformat -e a: (You can ONLY format to 2.8 Meg on DECstations, but you can do 1.4 Meg, if desired, on the IBM RS/6000 machines.) WARNING: (From the Ultrix 4.3 Release Notes:) "Due to hardware constraints, specially-formatted media is required to get reasonable performance from these floppy drives. By default, the _fddisk_ utility formats media for optimum performance in the system (about 30 Kbytes/second). If a floppy that has been formatted in another system is used, the performance will be about 2 Kbytes/second." If you have an MIT PO #, you can go to the Dept. of Purchasing and Stores in the basement of building 4 and buy your own pre-formatted HD disks: Part # Description Price ------ ------------------------------ ----- 103566 Disks, 3.5", 3M IBM PS/2 Format $16.16/box of 10 If you don't have an MIT PO #, you can purchase them individually or in boxes of 10 at the MIT Computer Connection, in the basement of the Student Center, or at the MIT Kendall Coop, in Kendall Square.