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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. New Amphi
           From: G_Zink_us@yahoo.com
      2. Re: add an additional stock fan
           From: Ken Chambers <kenneth3@concentric.net>
      3. Re: New Amphi
           From: Greg <G_Zink_us@yahoo.com>
      4. Re: New Amphi
           From: martyandcaryl@charter.net
      5. bilgeing winter
           From: David Derer <dmd@essex1.com>
      6. RE: Tommys heat
           From: "Gord Souter" <houseboats@encode.com>
      7. RE: New Amphi
           From: "Marc Schlemmer" <mschlem@amphicar.net>
      8. Re: Sunday Swim on the Rock River
           From: miabumpa@aol.com
      9. Re: Saggy Top
           From: eznz@earthlink.net


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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 14:34:42 -0000
   From: G_Zink_us@yahoo.com
Subject: New Amphi

I just wanted to reintroduce myself to the group since I am not=20
listed on the "members list" of the club newsletter because I joined=20
too late to make the list.
I recently aquired a white '67 and probably have one of the shortest=20
stories from time of first site to purchase. The first time I saw=20
them in use was at last July's swim-in in Celina. I had heard a story=20
on some local radio station about 2 days prior to the swim-in and=20
since I was only about 3 hours away in Michigan I decide I and the=20
family had to see these things. Since then it's been an almost=20
constant search for a decent one for an amount that I could sell to=20
the wife. It has really consumed me for the past 7 months and I have=20
read every e-groups posting since then and have learned a lot from=20
all of you.=20
Thanks to Eric(yellow) who took pity on us in Celina and gave a=20
family of 5(yes 6 of crowded in with the top up) a swim. My wife=20
actually got the invite and it must have been like the old story of=20
the nice looking woman hitch hiking- after the guy stops, thinking=20
it's just the woman, the rest come out of the bushes. I don't think=20
he had any idea what he was getting into. It was a thrill and we have=20
showed many people the video.=20
Apologies to everyone for standing on the dock between the two ramps=20
and shamelessly putting my two year old up to asking everyone for a=20
ride as you guys came out of the water knowing that, of course, I=20
would have to acompany him if anyone took him up on it.
I look forward to joining you at future swim-ins, this time with a=20
car.


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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 06:49:28 -0800
   From: Ken Chambers <kenneth3@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: add an additional stock fan

I think Tommy is on to something good here.  I emailed him to request more =
info
on the heater duct blower he selected.  He mentioned the manufacturer and I
found the blowers in the West Marine (http://westmarine.com) catalog.  It
appears to me that these blowers might be easily fitted inside the existing
Amphicar fan housing, at least on the early heater units located below the =
gas
tank, although I haven't taken mine apart yet to check.  Might be a very co=
st
effective retrofit for those replacing a defective motor or to get more air
flow.

The blower unit is described on attwood's site:
http://www.attwoodmarine.com/Products/parts.asp?ProductID=3D433&path=3Dvent=
ilation&category=3D2&gtype=3D2&categoryname=3DVentilation+Equipment&typenam=
e=3D4%22+Air+Hose&headername=3DVentilation+Equipment

Thanks Tommy for the good tip.  Any additional installation information wou=
ld
certainly be very welcomed.

Ken Chambers, CA
'64 Amphi

>
> Hi all, So the real deal is I have been working on this fan thing off and=
 on
> for a while. I tried a 3" fan, sorta like one on the back of a processor,
> placed over the air input by the passengers foot. It just did not improve=
 air
> flow enough. I was at NAPA in the boat department and I spotted this bilg=
e
> blower I'll post the manufacturer, part number, cost, etc=A0tomorow, I do
> remember it was made by Atwood and cost about $28. You can hear it a litt=
le
> inside the passengers compartment. I am going to wire it to its own switc=
h so
> I will have a two speed heater fan.
> - OK for those wishing to maintain originality, if you want extra air add=
 an
> extra fan, add an additional stock fan you will probably experience a 60%
> increase in air flow just stack it on top of your fan and take the time t=
o
> wire it inside the pipe. No one will know, no fan to see, no wire to see =
only
> your warm toes will know. Tommy in Tampa - White 64 Snappy


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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 06:56:45 -0800 (PST)
   From: Greg <G_Zink_us@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New Amphi

I just realized that I forgot to include my name and
address on the first posting.
Greg Zinkosky=20
Milford, Michigan
email: G_Zink_us@Yahoo.com
67 white


--- G_Zink_us@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just wanted to reintroduce myself to the group
> since I am not=20
> listed on the "members list" of the club newsletter
> because I joined=20
> too late to make the list.
> I recently aquired a white '67 and probably have one
> of the shortest=20
> stories from time of first site to purchase. The
> first time I saw=20
> them in use was at last July's swim-in in Celina. I
> had heard a story=20
> on some local radio station about 2 days prior to
> the swim-in and=20
> since I was only about 3 hours away in Michigan I
> decide I and the=20
> family had to see these things. Since then it's been
> an almost=20
> constant search for a decent one for an amount that
> I could sell to=20
> the wife. It has really consumed me for the past 7
> months and I have=20
> read every e-groups posting since then and have
> learned a lot from=20
> all of you.=20
> Thanks to Eric(yellow) who took pity on us in Celina
> and gave a=20
> family of 5(yes 6 of crowded in with the top up) a
> swim. My wife=20
> actually got the invite and it must have been like
> the old story of=20
> the nice looking woman hitch hiking- after the guy
> stops, thinking=20
> it's just the woman, the rest come out of the
> bushes. I don't think=20
> he had any idea what he was getting into. It was a
> thrill and we have=20
> showed many people the video.=20
> Apologies to everyone for standing on the dock
> between the two ramps=20
> and shamelessly putting my two year old up to asking
> everyone for a=20
> ride as you guys came out of the water knowing that,
> of course, I=20
> would have to acompany him if anyone took him up on
> it.
> I look forward to joining you at future swim-ins,
> this time with a=20
> car.
>=20
>=20


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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:25:39 -0000
   From: martyandcaryl@charter.net
Subject: Re: New Amphi

Good morning Greg, nice note of getting rides in Celina, we were at=20
Celina last year also and were Amphiless then too, we did however=20
purchase one very soon after returning home.  My wife, 2 little girls=20
and myself put many miles, land and water on it before winter set in,=20
it was the most fun we've had ever.  We met many other great Amphi=20
people last year and hundreds of curious on lookers at different=20
places we put in.
Are you coming to Celina this year?
Marty & Caryl
'64 Turq
BUOYANT in WI

--- In amphicar-lovers@y..., Greg <G_Zink_us@y...> wrote:
> I just realized that I forgot to include my name and
> address on the first posting.
> Greg Zinkosky=20
> Milford, Michigan
> email: G_Zink_us@Y...
> 67 white
>=20
>=20
> --- G_Zink_us@y... wrote:
> > I just wanted to reintroduce myself to the group
> > since I am not=20
> > listed on the "members list" of the club newsletter
> > because I joined=20
> > too late to make the list.
> > I recently aquired a white '67 and probably have one
> > of the shortest=20
> > stories from time of first site to purchase. The
> > first time I saw=20
> > them in use was at last July's swim-in in Celina. I
> > had heard a story=20
> > on some local radio station about 2 days prior to
> > the swim-in and=20
> > since I was only about 3 hours away in Michigan I
> > decide I and the=20
> > family had to see these things. Since then it's been
> > an almost=20
> > constant search for a decent one for an amount that
> > I could sell to=20
> > the wife. It has really consumed me for the past 7
> > months and I have=20
> > read every e-groups posting since then and have
> > learned a lot from=20
> > all of you.=20
> > Thanks to Eric(yellow) who took pity on us in Celina
> > and gave a=20
> > family of 5(yes 6 of crowded in with the top up) a
> > swim. My wife=20
> > actually got the invite and it must have been like
> > the old story of=20
> > the nice looking woman hitch hiking- after the guy
> > stops, thinking=20
> > it's just the woman, the rest come out of the
> > bushes. I don't think=20
> > he had any idea what he was getting into. It was a
> > thrill and we have=20
> > showed many people the video.=20
> > Apologies to everyone for standing on the dock
> > between the two ramps=20
> > and shamelessly putting my two year old up to asking
> > everyone for a=20
> > ride as you guys came out of the water knowing that,
> > of course, I=20
> > would have to acompany him if anyone took him up on
> > it.
> > I look forward to joining you at future swim-ins,
> > this time with a=20
> > car.
> >=20
> >


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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:02:44 -0600
   From: David Derer <dmd@essex1.com>
Subject: bilgeing winter

My entire body was able to acclimate to one day of warm weather. Then
boom back to zero wind chills.My new 64 might be trapped on east coast.
For how long who knows? I spoke with City of De Pue and of course they
are excited about the Amphicar invasion. Early after noon we leave boat
club and cruise (via pavement) to Lake De Pue. Depending on river
conditions we can travel back to boat club via river or road. Dash
plaques are ordered. Maybe I can get Charles Gould to come out to cook!
Later Dave the Wave


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Message: 6
   Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:20:02 -0500
   From: "Gord Souter" <houseboats@encode.com>
Subject: RE: Tommys heat


   Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:32:13 EST
   From: tommyintpa@aol.com
Subject: add an additional stock fan

=20=20=20=20
 you got a good idea there Tommy
think Ill try it to
Gord in Canada

see you at Mt dora
coming down on tue the 20th=20=20=20


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Message: 7
   Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:52:17 -0500
   From: "Marc Schlemmer" <mschlem@amphicar.net>
Subject: RE: New Amphi

Welcome Greg!  Glad to have you with us!
I may be able to beat your "shortest time to buy" story tho.  It was late
summer of '97 before I even knew what an Amphicar was...and by October 1st =
I
had one.  I casually looked at one nearby, then drove to Roger Sallee's in
MO.  We took a ride in one of his cars, and I bought another one he had tha=
t
was in the body shop.  It came home in pieces, and by December it was on th=
e
road.  May of '98 we took our first test dip, and by July we headed to Lake
George, New York for the 5th Amphicar Club Swim In.
We haven't stopped since!

Enjoy your new Amphicar lifestyle!
Marc Schlemmer


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Message: 8
   Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:55:10 EST
   From: miabumpa@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sunday Swim on the Rock River

In a message dated 3/4/01 9:14:13 PM Central Standard Time,=20
martyandcaryl@charter.net writes:

>  martyandcaryl@charter.net
glad to see a ampi on the rock keep me posted. sometime maybe will meet


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Message: 9
   Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 21:55:03 -0600
   From: eznz@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Saggy Top

Tommy, my top irons also sagged, and this is what I did to "fix" them:

FIRST: The hinge at the back window would not let the top irons get close e=
nough to the window to let the rubber gaskets make a seal, and this forced =
the top irons down enough to touch the roll-up windows (caused sag).  The h=
inge would close before it should have. I had to grind out some of the mate=
rial between the hinge ends to allow the top irons, above the windows, to a=
t least straighten out.  They still sagged, but they could come up to the c=
orrect position.   The bar that goes from the pivot point to the hinge (abo=
ut
20-21 inches long) seemed to be too long - it wasn't pulling the top irons =
above the roll-up windows upward as it should.

SECOND: The "bar" needed two things: to be slightly shorter and to "pull" f=
rom a higher point.  I ground the head off the rear pivot point rivet and s=
napped the "bar" loose from the rivet.  I then heated the bar red hot about=
 two inches from the loose end, used a pipe wrench and bent it down so that=
 the end of the bar is about one inch lower than original. This makes the b=
ar shorter and it pulls from a point above its previous position.  This cau=
ses the top irons to snap upward when you put the top up.

This also leaves you with a pivot rivet with no head.  I put a kink in a sm=
all piece of metal and put two small bolts into it to hold the bar onto the=
 rivet.  You could probably drill a small hole into the end of the pivot st=
ud, tap it, and put a bolt and washer on it to hold it in place.

None of this work shows when the top is up, and it doesn't interfere with f=
old down.

Related matter:  my top irons were too narrow - there was a large gap betwe=
en the back window and the rubber gasket. I cut the "fixed" cross member, i=
nserted a short rod inside of it (the cross member is a pipe), widened the =
top irons until they sealed against the windows, then drilled a hole throug=
h each side of the "pipe." and put a small hard bolt through and tightened =
it. I put a pad over the whole thing so it wouldn't show.

Earl


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