Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po7.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA22979; Sat, 30 Sep 95 18:27:17 EDT Received: from SENATOR-BEDFELLOW.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA13580; Sat, 30 Sep 95 18:26:47 EDT Received: (from root@localhost) by senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU (8.6.12/2.3JIK) id SAA26469 for Linux-Development-System-Dist@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu; Sat, 30 Sep 1995 18:19:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199509302219.SAA26469@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> From: Digestifier To: Linux-Development-System@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Reply-To: Linux-Development-System@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 18:19:51 EDT Subject: Linux-Development-System Digest #868 Linux-Development-System Digest #868, Volume #1 Sat, 30 Sep 95 18:19:51 EDT Contents: Running BSD binaries on Linux (Mike Jagdis) AT1700 net problem (Brian M Grunkemeyer) Re: Win95 Device-Drivers as a crutch for linux ?? (H. Peter Anvin) Re: NeXT floppies? (Scott Johnson) Re: Linux-Development-System Digest #867 (G Dinesh Dutt) Re: /proc/dev: virtual device entries (/dev replacement) (Jon M. Taylor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Jagdis Subject: Running BSD binaries on Linux Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 23:16:00 GMT * In message <812285802.14129@triton.interads.co.uk>, TIm Howling said: TH> Is there any way to get BSD i386 binaries to run on Linux? TH> Otherwise I will be forced to switch to BSD so I can host my TH> application. Try the iBCS emulator (tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/BETA/ibcs2). I put the basic hooks for BSD support in it ages ago just to prove we could do it if anyone really wanted to. I've never felt the urge to complete it but it isn't that far off. Mike ------------------------------ From: Brian M Grunkemeyer Subject: AT1700 net problem Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 01:51:13 -0400 Periodically my net card (Allied Telesis AT1700) seems to stop working for short spans of time. Seemingly randomly it will lock up for about 3 minutes or so, usually killing a net connection I have open. I've replaced the cable and I'm sure the wiring is fine, as my site's connection to the internet. When it's locked up, netstat hangs until the problem goes away. With the recent kernels (I think > 1.3.28ish), netstat shows a strange connection: raw 0 65472 grunks.res.cmu.edu:1 *:* This doesn't dissappear until I reboot. Also, the following appears in /var/log/messages: kernel: eth0: transmit timed out with status 8f80, IRQ conflict? kernel: eth0: timeout registers: 8f80 8182 0306 e85a c120 0000 8000 0801. There is no IRQ conflict. This has been happening every once in a while since I've installed Linux, from kernel 1.1.59 -> 1.3.29. ------------------------------ From: hpa@loki.yggdrasil.com (H. Peter Anvin) Subject: Re: Win95 Device-Drivers as a crutch for linux ?? Date: 30 Sep 1995 05:56:51 GMT Reply-To: Peter.Anvin@linux.org (H. Peter Anvin) Followup to: <44ar5s$qmm@track.taz.de> By author: norbert@taz.de (Norbert Thies) In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.development.system > > that's right, but, since win95 and win-nt are merging together > (according to Bill's announcement, there will be one more > win95 release until the final merge), > You get points off for believing *anything* Bill says... that guy will change his tune anytime he thinks there is a better way to screw the customer, and usually will deny ever having said anything in the first place. /hpa -- PGP public key available - finger hpa@terminus.storm.net "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah ------------------------------ From: johnsos@holmes.ece.orst.edu (Scott Johnson) Subject: Re: NeXT floppies? Date: 30 Sep 1995 17:38:03 GMT In article <44jh8l$61s@catapult.gatech.edu>, Chris wrote: >Scott Johnson (johnsos@holmes.ece.orst.edu) wrote: >: >No, they use 2.88 meg floppy drives that can read and write FAT, HFS (macintrash >: >), and NeXT (kinda like BSD) file systems. I've heard that there is a kernel >: >patch to read/write NeXT file systems, but I don't know where it would be. Try >: >the LSM. > >: I think that some models of the NeXT used flopticals, but the world wasn't >: ready for them at the time. The NeXT I used to play with had a standard >: 3-1/2" drive which, as you said, could handle FAT, HFS, and whatever-the- >: native-NeXT-filesystem-was disks. (Is it the SAME as Berkeley's FS, or >: merely similar????) > >Sorry. What I meant was that the "standard" drive on a NeXT was/is (?) a 2.88. >You could get floptical, but it was optional/only on high-end models. From >what I remember, the file system is close to, but not equivalent to, to 4.4- >BSD's file system. Thanks. >: >chris >: >-- >: >Chris Ricker : gt1355b@prism.gatech.edu : The Georgia Institute o' Technology >: >"I got a threshold, Jules. I got a threshold for the abuse I'll take. And >: >you're crossing it. I'm a race car and you got me in the red. Redline >: >7000, that's where you are. Just know, it's...dangerous to be drivin' a >: >race car when it's in the red. It could blow." --Vincent Vega-- > >: You're gonna blow, muthafucka, YOU'RE gonna blow? Well let me tell you >: something. I'm a mushroom-cloud layin' MUTHAFUCKA, muthafucka! I'm >: super-fried TNT! I'm the muthafuckin' Guns of the Navarone! And what am I >: doin' back here cleanin' up this shit. YOU shot the muthafucka, YOU should >: be on brain detail. We changin' places! > >Yes! Another fan ;-). "Did you ever hear the philosophy that once a man >admits he's wrong, he's immediately forgiven for all wrongdoings?" Whoever said THAT shit never had to pick up little pieces of brain and skull on account of YOUR dumb ass! Tarantino rules! /sj/ Scott Johnson -- Graduate Slave, ECE Department, Oregon State University Check out my new (but unfinished) Web page--http://www.ece.orst.edu/~johnsos -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "What do they look like, Jimmy?" "Dorks! They look like a couple of dorks!" -Harvey Keitel and Quentin Tarantino _Pulp Fuction_ ------------------------------ From: G Dinesh Dutt Subject: Re: Linux-Development-System Digest #867 Date: 30 Sep 1995 17:44:18 -0400 Reply-To: brat@htilbom.ernet.in Hi Ashish, You should get this mail in return to any *get info* request that you send to my mailbox. It contains a few things. It contains the backup script we use over here (the priority-based stuff that I told you about will be sent on Wed), it contains info about backup procedure and also location of all the tools. Have fun, Dinesh ======== 1. Amanda is available at : ftp://ftp.cs.umd.edu/pub/amanda/* 2. Perl4 and Perl5 are available as follows : ftp://ftp.metronet.com/pub/perl/sources/perl5.001m.tar.gz ftp://ftp.metronet.com/pub/perl/sources/perl4.036.tar.Z U might need gzip which is available at : ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu. 3. 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Peter Anvin wrote: >Followup to: >By author: danm@gcs.com (Dan Miner) >In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.development.system >> >> During my last episode with too many partitions on an HD, I discovered >> an idea for making major/minor numbers rather dynamic and almost pointless >> for users to know. It's mostly device registation change. >> >> A device driver would register itself somewhat like is done now except >> it would receive a "major" (call it a device id). At this point, you >> still can't "access" the driver. It needs to register logical devices. >> Here is where the "minor" would be available for registation in any way >> the driver sees fit. Now in the /proc, it would have a directory called >> /proc/dev which contains the device entries as the ones found in /dev. I like this idea. No more having a /dev directory with oodles of device nodes for devices you don't have, and no more problems with not having a node for a device you *do* have (or having an incorrect one). No more need to symlink things all over the place, either. Devices representing IO ports/port groups could be created as well. This would allow assignment of read/write privs to be assigned to system devices on a case-by-case basis if needed. Old stuff that needed /dev entries could be pacified with auto-created symlinks there as well. >Dynamic devices have a lot of problems associated with it, primarily >loss of permissions, Good point. One way around that could be to assign each device node its own unique group id (I.E. device lp0 has group lp0r for read privs and lp0w for write privs). Any node whose associated groups weren't in /etc/groups (or perhaps another separate group file) would be assumed to have RW permissions set for world. -- Jon Taylor = | ============================================================================== "That's the thing about people who think they hate computers; what they really hate are lousy programmers." - "Oath of Fealty", Niven & Pournelle ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Development-System-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.development.system) via: Internet: Linux-Development-System@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Development-System Digest ******************************