Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po7.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA14528; Wed, 6 Dec 95 10:37:54 EST Received: from SENATOR-BEDFELLOW.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA16945; Wed, 6 Dec 95 10:36:41 EST Received: (from root@localhost) by senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU (8.6.12/2.3JIK) id KAA21190 for Linux-Development-System-Dist@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 10:16:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199512061516.KAA21190@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> From: Digestifier To: Linux-Development-System@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Reply-To: Linux-Development-System@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 10:16:31 EST Subject: Linux-Development-System Digest #90 Linux-Development-System Digest #90, Volume #2 Wed, 6 Dec 95 10:16:31 EST Contents: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux (Ken Edwards) dlopen() and other dyn-lib stuff (Chris Stakutis) Linux on the Alpha? (D. Christian Griffin) Re: HELP! Need restricted shell for Linux!!!!!!!! (Anthony J. Stuckey) reading lp port.. (Renee Teunissen) Re: Crashed disk with linux (Gary Heston) Re: Q:Will Sound Galaxy 16 Washington ever be supported (WSS compatible)? (Hannu Savolainen) Re: ld.so.1.7.11, please, thanks! (Russell Johnston) Re: ld.so-1.7.11 RTLD_GLOBAL working? (David Engel) Re: Standardized Printing for Linux (David Hinds) Re: Standardized Printing for Linux (Alex Martelli) Re: libg++.so.27? (Alex Martelli) Re: Can console do a VT220 emulation? (Christoph Lameter) Re: Will Linux work with the P6 ??? (root) Re: Standardized Printing for Linux (Terry Tanski) Re: can't compile with inb(), outb(); linking errors (Koyama Tadayoshi) Motif development libraries for linux, correction :) (Charles Meystrik) Repost: cdu31a not seen by 1.3.xx ! (Henrik Soderstrom) PPP + 1.3.45 memory corruption (Richard Henderson) Re: Quick kernel vnum recommendation (Andrew Mileski) [Where] module for par Zip drive? (Remco Treffkorn) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: edwards@xon.cuug.ab.ca (Ken Edwards) Subject: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux Date: 3 Dec 1995 09:57:47 -0700 Tim Gehrke (tgehrke@lrz.fh-muenchen.de) wrote: : kermit@wwa.com (Matthew D. Isleb) wrote: : >Has anyone heard anything about stadarizing printing for linux? : >I have heard that SCO has some kind of standarization of printing. : > : >As of now, to get any kind of decent printouts you need a postscript printer : >and a filter to turn docs into postscript. Or perhaps you have been : >lucky enough to find a filter for you specific printer (e.g. HP DeskJet 500) : > Why not use magicfilter? ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/magicfilter-1.1b.tar.gz It doesn't standardize printing, it just makes it possible to print just about any file type you can imagine on just about any printer you want. ------------------------------ From: stakutis@opus.mc.com (Chris Stakutis) Subject: dlopen() and other dyn-lib stuff Date: 5 Dec 95 14:56:55 hi! does anyone know if there is linux support for the dynamic-library functions like "dlopen()"? my version doesn't seem to support it, and i need to have it. any help is appreciated! cj e-mail me at: stakutis@mc.com -- ==================================================================== Chris Stakutis Mercury Computers stakutis@mc.com ------------------------------ From: dgriffin@eng.usf.edu (D. Christian Griffin) Subject: Linux on the Alpha? Date: 5 Dec 1995 19:52:46 GMT Could someone give me some information about the status of Linux on the Dec Alpha AXP chip? I am interested in what kind of performance I might get with this combination. Does anyone know of a place that sells Alpha Motherboards? Thanks Chris -- =========================================================================== | Chris Griffin | "That which does not kill you | | University Of South Florida | makes you irritable" | | College of Engineering | -Nietzsche's Girlfriend | | dgriffin@suntan.eng.usf.edu | | =========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: stuckey@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Anthony J. Stuckey) Subject: Re: HELP! Need restricted shell for Linux!!!!!!!! Date: 5 Dec 1995 20:05:33 GMT hollen@vigra.com (Dion Hollenbeck) writes: >>>>>> "Oleg" == Oleg E Lapshin writes: >You might have told us what you wanted it restricted to. However, why >not write your own. The beginning project for my UNIX for Systems >Programmers was to write a shell. When you write it, you can just >make a list of commands that you will allow the user, and not execute >any others. It is not too difficult, even to implement pipes and >redirection. He doesn't have to. It has long been standard for the restricted shell to: (From the ksh man page) the standard shell. The actions of rksh are identical to those of sh, except that the following are disallowed: changing directory [see cd(1)], setting the value of SHELL, ENV, or PATH, specifying path or command names containing /, redirecting output (>, >| , <> , and >>). The restrictions above are enforced after .profile and the ENV files are interpreted. BASH should have a restricted mode, I don't think that pdksh does. -- Anthony J. Stuckey stuckey@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu "And if you frisbee-throw a universe where does it go?" -- Steve Blunt. GCS/S -d+@ p c(++) l u+ e+(-) m+(*) s+++/-- !n h(*) f+ g+ w+ t+@ r y? KiboNumber == 1 ------------------------------ From: renee@ntserver.prolution.iaf.nl (Renee Teunissen) Subject: reading lp port.. Date: 5 Dec 1995 01:36:01 GMT Hi, For a project I need to read some datalines from the lpt2 port. a least on dos I can read them, but then again how about linux. Does the lp driver support this or do I have to read the port myself? has anyone any examples about this? Groetzz, Renee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Renee Teunissen Prolution Software Services | | -- Home ----------- | | F. Bolstraat 30 | Warning: _ANYTHING_ I say might be nonsense! | | 7545CH Enschede NL | _BUT_ if my immoral help is useful, you may | | Tel:+31-53-4309720 | use it at your _own_ risk... Don't blame me! | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 'cat /proc/version | cut -d' ' -f1-3' says: Linux version 1.3.20 ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.security.unix From: gary@scisysgw.sci.com (Gary Heston) Subject: Re: Crashed disk with linux Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 04:58:45 GMT In article <49tc79$bsj@tombstone.kent.edu> gbutler@Phoenix.kent.edu (Butler Gerald E ) writes: > > >: I've found in my /var/adm/messages a odd connection from >: Nothin-But-Net.white.net Well, email root@white.net and ask why one of their users is breaking into your system. Offer to prosecute. > I don't know a whole lot about this, but it almost sounds as >if someone uploaded something to you that managed to infect the MBR. Try >doing a format /MBR on the HD or perhaps a low-level format. Yikes!! No!! That's "fdisk /mbr", *not* format. It will also likely destroy any LILO configuration on the system. However, I don't know of anything that could be run under Linux that would infect the MBR. Either someone from white.net broke in and crashed the system, or there was a strange coincidence. Gary -- Gary Heston SCI Systems, Inc. gary@sci.com Departmental net admin The Chairman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither. "I told the guys they ought to design a calculator to fit in my shirt pocket, so they came and measured my pocket." Bill Hewlett, of HP. ------------------------------ From: Hannu Savolainen Subject: Re: Q:Will Sound Galaxy 16 Washington ever be supported (WSS compatible)? Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 09:47:47 +0200 Borre 'Wouse' Sanders wrote: > > Hello reader, > Is there any chance of some sound kernel-source being released in the > near future that supports the (Windows Sound System compatible) Aztech > Sound Galaxy Washington sound card? Well, actually I have the Trust > Sound Expert 16, but it seems to be the same as the card mentioned > above. Right now I have to boot to DOS, switch my card to Windows > Sound System and soft-reboot to Linux. Somewhat annoying, especially Could you look at the card and tell me the major chips on it? Aztech has made lot of different cards during last years. Each model is little bit different than the others but there are lot similarities. Older Aztech cards don't require any special initialization and they work with Linux fairly well (see below). > because not all the mixing capabilities are supported by the Windows > Sound System driver. Some Aztech cards have two mixers (SB Pro and WSS). All inputs are connected to the SB Pro mixer which is then connected to one input of the WSS mixer. I don't know if this is the case with your card too. Hannu ------------------------------ From: Russell Johnston Subject: Re: ld.so.1.7.11, please, thanks! Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 14:02:52 +0000 Tim Bass wrote: > I've looked on sunsite and mit.edu for ld.so.1.7.11 and try ftp.ods.com/pub/linux cheers, Russell Johnston ------------------------------ From: david@ods.com (David Engel) Subject: Re: ld.so-1.7.11 RTLD_GLOBAL working? Date: 6 Dec 1995 02:54:10 GMT Neal Becker (neal@ctd.comsat.com) wrote: > I'm glad to see ld.so-1.7.11 says that RTLD_GLOBAL is supported! But > does it work? This simple test program seems to show it doesn't. We > load a.so, which defines 'a'. Then we load b.so, and it fails, saying > 'a' is undefined. This is due to a known bug in libdl.so. It is fixed in the version that will be released later this week. What is happening is that g++ is silently adding a dependency on libm.so in a.so and dlopen is marking libm.so as global instead of a.so. BTW, you have two other serious errors in your test case. First, you are calling dlerror twice, once in main and again in Error. The second call is invalid and will return NULL. Second, you are calling dlsym with the unmagled name for f. You must use the mangled name, which is f__Fv. David -- David Engel Optical Data Systems, Inc. david@ods.com 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081 ------------------------------ From: dhinds@hyper.stanford.edu (David Hinds) Subject: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux Date: 5 Dec 1995 20:05:01 GMT Albert Cahalan (albert@snowdon.ccs.neu.edu) wrote: : D> I don't fully understand this. I can't tell whether you don't know about : D> ghostscript, are having trouble with it, or are not satisfied with its : D> output. The other question I have is what format the docs you want to send : D> to the xxx->postscript filter are in. : OK, here is the request: print a man page on an inkjet printer. : You could convert to PostScript, then convert to a bitmap image, : then s-l-o-w-l-y send the image to the printer. You may run out : of printer memory and crash the printer. While you do this, : you get to test the speed of your swap partition. I run ghostscript on my lowly 486SL-25 laptop to print to a HP Deskjet 260 and I think the print speed is fine. I don't think printer memory is ever an issue, because the image is never stored in the printer: the Deskjet 260 has only a 16K buffer, and I've never had it "crash". -- Dave Hinds dhinds@allegro.stanford.edu ------------------------------ From: alex@cirfid.unibo.it (Alex Martelli) Subject: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 21:58:33 MET Reply-To: alex@cirfid.unibo.it albert@snowdon.ccs.neu.edu (Albert Cahalan) writes: ... >OK, here is the request: print a man page on an inkjet printer. What's wrong with groff -man -Tdvi yourpage.1 | lpr -d ??? >You could use the nice formatting escape sequences provided by >the printer manufacturer for exactly this purpose. Unfortunately, >there is no printer API so all programs must assume ASCII or >PostScript only. You can't use this option with Linux. Quite a few options are available between ASCII and Postscript, the most practical one probably being DVI, the device-independent format developed by Knuth as the output format for the TeX formatter -- and quite a few programs DO use it besides TeX, of course. Downstream from that, you can place any of a myriad of filters that will turn the device-independent format into the "nice formatting escape sequences" you like so much -- and lpr, via /etc/printcap, can be configured to choose the right filter for the job. Alex -- Alex Martelli, Bologna, Italia -- DISCLAIMER: these are only MY opinions...! __ Man has no Body distinct from his Soul... | William Blake \/ Energy is the only life, and is from the Body... | DID know Energy is Eternal Delight. | where it's at... ------------------------------ From: alex@cirfid.unibo.it (Alex Martelli) Subject: Re: libg++.so.27? Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 22:04:26 MET Reply-To: alex@cirfid.unibo.it sviznyuk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sergei Viznyuk) writes: ... >>does anyone know where I can find libg++.so.27 and libstdc++.so.27? I have >>got a binary distribution of octave-1.1.1 and it complains about not finding >>those libraries. On sunsite and some other servers I have only found >>*.so.26. >Keep it. libg++.so.27 won't work with libc.5.0.9. >You can try it anyway. It's on >prep.ai.mit.edu pub/gnu Or, better, you can get libg++.so.27 AND libc.5.2.6 on sunsite, tsx-11, etc, since a few days ago -- you'll also need the newest binutils and ld.so, but everything is also available precompiled and ready to install (all you need to do manually is a few symlinks:-). Smoothest upgrade I ever did...! Alex -- Alex Martelli, Bologna, Italia -- DISCLAIMER: these are only MY opinions...! __ Man has no Body distinct from his Soul... | William Blake \/ Energy is the only life, and is from the Body... | DID know Energy is Eternal Delight. | where it's at... ------------------------------ From: Christoph Lameter Subject: Re: Can console do a VT220 emulation? Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 08:46:14 -0800 On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, M. D. Young wrote: > Mr. Lameter, > > The Linux console doesn't do a perfect job of emulating a VT220, > but it is close enough for government work :) > It doesn't directly support smooth scroll, 80-132 column switching, > visual bell, and some other goodies. > > Fortunately, most applications don't demand those... How do you get the Keyboard Codes to be compatible with VT220? ============================================================================= Christoph Lameter FTS Box 466, Pasadena, CA 91182 Internet Administrator Who is like Jesus... who is like God...? ------------------------------ From: cshamis@erinet.com (root) Subject: Re: Will Linux work with the P6 ??? Date: 4 Dec 1995 19:56:22 GMT Reply-To: cshamis@erinet.com Patrick Yaner (p_yaner@eos.ncsu.edu) wrote: : It'll run DOS/Windows and Win 95, from what I hear, even if slower than a : P5-133 in a similar system, but I heard it'll run 32-bit OS's (like NT) : like nothin' else. (BTW, wasn't this part of a BYTE benchmark : or something recently? I can't remember where I saw it, exactly). : Considering that, I'd guess it will run Linux..... Linux will run like a bat-outa-hell, and even more so, when gcc gets p5 and p6 optimizations. (Or does it allready have p5 ops?) ------------------------------ From: terryt@ren.pc.athabascau.ca (Terry Tanski) Subject: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux Date: 5 Dec 1995 20:32:33 GMT Reply-To: terryt@cs.athabascau.ca Albert Cahalan wrote: > > > >OK, here is the request: print a man page on an inkjet printer. > > > >You could print it as ASCII, but you lose the bold, underline, etc. > >(or whatever, I think troff has structure...) It looks poor. Here is what I use: nroff -man /usr/man/man1/ls.1 | lpr and everything is formatted fine when printed to a postscript laser. Terry -- ********* Terry Tanski, B.Sc. ********** . **** Computing Services Phone: (403) 675-6339 .. **** Athabasca University FAX: (403) 675-6333 .... **** Box 10,000 Email: terryt@cs.athabascau.ca ..........**** Athabasca, AB CANADA Web: http://www.athabascau.ca ------------------------------ From: koyama@mailhost.net (Koyama Tadayoshi) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps Subject: Re: can't compile with inb(), outb(); linking errors Date: 06 Dec 1995 15:07:30 +0900 Reply-To: koyama@mailhost.net In article Nat.Makarevitch@nataa.frmug.fr.net (Nat Makarevitch) writes: > >>>>> "RW" == Rogier Wolff writes: > > RW> Jay Goldberg (jayg@iwl.net) wrote: : In article > [ problems when linking object files with outb() and inb() calls ] > > RW> Try gcc -c -O2 poke.c > > Please be careful with -O2 because some recent versions of gcc may produce > broken binaries. Use at least "-O2 -fno-strength-reduce" Is there any option to generate these code inlined other than -O[n] ? it seems that -finline-functions doesn't do this. -- pcs00294@asciinet.or.jp (mani)| Koyama Tadayoshi koyama@MAILHOST.NET | from Nishiwaseda Tokyo ------------------------------ From: meystrik@cs.utk.edu (Charles Meystrik) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x Subject: Motif development libraries for linux, correction :) Date: 5 Dec 1995 15:42:57 -0500 I submitted a request for Motif 2.1 about a week ago and was corrected, thankfully. I am looking for the 2.0 libraries for development work on my masters thesis, Motif 2.1 has not been released by OSF yet. If anyone knows of a free library kit that would not take a great deal of porting from Motif 2.0 that would be appreciated also. Else, if you know where I can get the Motif development libraries for linux please let me know. Reply by e-mail is probably best to keep the clutter out of the news group. Thanks, -Chris meystrik@cs.utk.edu -- C.Chris Meystrik | Computer Science Department University of Tennessee | E-mail: meystrik@cs.utk.edu Graduate Student | ------------------------------ From: Henrik Soderstrom Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware Subject: Repost: cdu31a not seen by 1.3.xx ! Date: 6 Dec 1995 14:09:44 GMT Hi, had no luck with the following question that I posted a while back so I'm having another go. Can't imagine I'm the only one with this problem (?). Reading the postings it seems all too common for questions to go unanswered - all is voluntary, of course, but maybe we can all make an effort to do better ! I'm a newcomer to this myself but try to make it a point to answer at least as many questions I post (when they're about something I have had happen to me or know about). Cheers /Henrik ================================================================ Need help to have CDROM recognised in 1.3.xx kernels. Have read the HOWTO's and it does NOT seem to be the polling problem ... I am consistently getting the CDROM recognised in kernel 1.2.13 and failing with 1.3.xx (tried 45,43,39,35) - all these were compiled with the cdu31a options enabled. I know the address is correct (0x340) cause 2.1.13 fails as well when I try giving it a different address in the kernel parameter cdu31a as follows (booting with LOADLIN): kernel param: none cdu31a=0x340 cdu31a=0x230 (or other) 1.2.13 kernel WORKS WORKS FAILS 1.3.xx kernel FAILS FAILS FAILS Equipment is Sony CDU33A connected to an SB-compatible soundcard. Any ideas much appreciated, Cheers /Henrik ------------------------------ From: richard@atheist.tamu.edu (Richard Henderson) Subject: PPP + 1.3.45 memory corruption Date: 6 Dec 1995 06:08:12 GMT Reply-To: rth@tamu.edu I am seeing a "block on freelist isn't free" message shortly after ppp registers device ppp0. I can get this reliably with 1.3.45, and I'm told that it happened with previous kernels (>1.3.40?), though it was spurrious and I never actually witnessed it. A few printk's in key locations reveal that the block header is not simply not free but corrupted. Hovever, I don't know what is supposed to be going on during the creation of a ppp connection, so I thought I'd ask for help here. For what it is worth, the system is a P5/60, with an Adaptec 1520. The kernel is configured with only basic networking and the adaptec driver installed; ppp is loaded from a module. r~ ------------------------------ From: dmtech@magi.com (Andrew Mileski) Subject: Re: Quick kernel vnum recommendation Date: 6 Dec 1995 06:08:46 GMT Sean O'Halloran (seano@teleport.com) wrote: > Can you guys recommend a stable 1.3.X kernel ? .. I have heard that > 1.3.20 is pretty good, fast, and stable - but I would like to get some > input or recommedations from the guys in the know. I intend to put this > release of o/s on a permanent IP address directly on the net. I've been using V1.3.45 since it hit the net. Works fine for me. Note that whether or no a kernel works for tou will depend om your hardware, so try before you buy :) -- Andrew E. Mileski -- ======================================================= Dark Matter Technologies Inc. - Ottawa Ontario, Canada! mailto:dmtech@magi.com http://www.magi.com/~dmtech/ ------------------------------ From: remco@blue.ugraf.com (Remco Treffkorn) Subject: [Where] module for par Zip drive? Date: 5 Dec 1995 23:37:05 GMT Some time ago I saw something about a driver for the par port version of the iomega Zip drive here. I lost the reference and the article is already expired. I would be thankfull for a pointer, either posted here, or send to me at remco@emc.rvt.com Thanks ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Development-System-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.development.system) via: Internet: Linux-Development-System@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Development-System Digest ******************************