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From: Matthew Mac Gibbon <mirtos@panix.com>
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On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Todd Fries wrote:

> > While the 1.3 kernels do seem very stable these days - especially in
> > comparison to some of the 1.1 kernels - I think it would be a mistake
> > to rely on 1.3.  We want to bring Java to the masses, not just to
> > the bleeding edgers.  The "official" kernel is 1.2.x, and that should
> > be the basis.
> 
> For what it's worth, imnsho, I don't agree.  1.3.x has caused me very few
> problems aside from a couple of known unstable versions..  If one is going
> to run 'alpha' test programs, one can expect to have constraints.  Using
> the latest kernel is certainly not any kind of unusual request.

See, but the point is, for most people here java is not the only reason 
you run linux.  Eventually I will upgrade to 1.3, but I'm not going to do 
it so that I can use an alpha product.  You dont just upgrade to the 
latest operating system when you support users, other programs, because 
you are testing one product.  If its your own personal machine, fine, but 
once you start looking at ISP's or people using their machine for 
business uses, they cant just do things on the fly.


> 
> > Obviously, a 1.2.x-compatible java would still have to work under 1.3.x,
> > so people wouldn't have to downgrade.  (I don't think I'd want to go
> > back to 1.2.x, even to run Java.)
> > 
> > I really have no clue as to whether kernel threads are The Right Thing.
> > If it can work with kernel threads, then go for it, but is still essential
> > to keep it 1.2-compatible.
> 
> I would hope that using kernel threads would be good.  What else would
> they be there for?
> 
> My $.02..
> 
> Todd....tfries@umr.edu
> 
>