Received: from SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po7.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA09250; Tue, 5 Dec 95 12:45:46 EST Received: from SENATOR-BEDFELLOW.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA21085; Tue, 5 Dec 95 12:44:42 EST Received: (from root@localhost) by senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU (8.6.12/2.3JIK) id MAA23198 for Linux-Development-System-Dist@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 12:14:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199512051714.MAA23198@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> From: Digestifier To: Linux-Development-System@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Reply-To: Linux-Development-System@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 12:13:55 EST Subject: Linux-Development-System Digest #88 Linux-Development-System Digest #88, Volume #2 Tue, 5 Dec 95 12:13:55 EST Contents: Re: System does not reboot (Alex Butcher) Re: Standardized Printing for Linux (John Meacham) Re: Will Linux work with the P6 ??? (Molnar Ingo) Re: BusLogic Flashpoint SCSI adapter support? ("Leonard N. Zubkoff") Strange behaviour of kernel 1.3.45 (Chng Tiak-Jung) libc 5.2.16 incompatible with libc.5.0.9? (Sergei Viznyuk) AWE32 drivers? (Andrew J Chalk) Re: SVGALIB question (Albert Cahalan) Re: Standardized Printing for Linux (Albert Cahalan) Re: Looking for a Linux-compiled copy of Perl 5 ready-to-use (The Renaissance Man) Re: Will Linux work with the P6 ??? (Rao) Re: Will Linux work with the P6 ??? (John D. Sundberg) Kernel symbol refs in loadable module? (Joe Pfeiffer) Kernel recompiling (Hong Niu) Building Linux from scratch....?? (The Proteus) Re: BSD Sockets ( Buffered? ) (Andreas Hammarstedt) Re: Searching for ROB NATION (Robert Budzynski) Re: Netscape/Mosaic for ELF (Brian J. Swetland) Re: Will Linux work with the P6 ??? (Thomas Koenig) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware From: Alex.Butcher@bris.ac.uk (Alex Butcher) Subject: Re: System does not reboot Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 17:30:41 GMT Hiya Tom Wheeley wrote: >In article > Alex.Butcher@bris.ac.uk "Alex Butcher" writes: >> Hiya >> >> thowi@gsse.sni.de (Thomas Winterfeldt) wrote: >> >> >In article <49abs5$133k@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>, >> > schaefer@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Arno Schaefer) wrote: >> >>Hi, >> >> >> >>I'm having a strange problem with one of our machines here: After issuing >> >>'shutdown -r now' or 'reboot now' or pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL, the system >> >>correctly shuts down, but it does not reboot - it behaves like I had >> >> Also, on a related topic, has anyone else noticed that under kernel >> 1.3.43 (at least, maybe earlier) 'shutdown -h now' doesn't print the >> usual 'unmounting filesystems' and 'system halted' messages? Is this a >> kernel change? It _sounds_ like it's unmounted the filesystems, but >> I'm not keen on trusting / to my hearing! :) >Yes, my system has never reboted itself, and so far I have just pressed >the RESET button when it says 'Done' and the hard disk stops crackling. >Haven't lost / yet :^) Yeah, that's fine. But I was talking about 'shutdown -h now' which is just supposed to halt the system safely and tell you it's done it. -h isn't *supposed* to reboot. But, on the subject of rebooting, I've come up with a patch which I'd like to to test if possible. I assume you can all read/write C. Just grab a copy of /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel/process.c into your favourite editor and find the reboot code (search from 'pulse' and 'stupid' and 'things' - it's around there). There's an outb() call in a loop, followed by some inline assembly. Change that outb() call to an outb_p() call (which pauses between outputs) and give that a whirl. I think it's fixed it on my machine. If it works on all of yours, I'll send it to Linus. Gosh - my first kernel patch - a whole two characters! :) If you get stuck, I'll try and come up with some diffs, but it's hardly worth it for those two characters. :) >-- >Tom Wheeley, >Oh, did I mention that I'm going to see Bottom Live next Thursday :-)) >* TQ 1.0 * Stolen Sigs! >"Too many windows, not enough brain." >[Colm.Buckley@tcd.ie] Regards, Alex. -- Alex Butcher - Micro Support Technician Tel +44 (0)117 928 9000 x3038 Computing Service, University of Bristol, Tyndall Ave. Bristol BS8 1UD http://www.cse.bris.ac.uk/~ccajb/Welcome.html #include ------------------------------ From: John Meacham Subject: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux Date: 5 Dec 1995 01:39:49 GMT > >>> Check out magicfilter: >>> >>> sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/system/Printing/magicfilter-1.1b.tar.gz >>> >>> /hpa > >G> Ditto this. I use magicfilter for my non-postscript HP laserjet, and >G> merrily print ascii, postscript, and .dvi formats transparently. >G> Completely configurable, so it's easy to support different formats or >G> different rendering tools. > >What is needed: a printing language that takes less processing power >than postscript and a set of drivers to go with magicfilter. >Magicfilter would need to be in the fsstnd thing and all distributions. I have no problem with Postscript.. it works fine on my DX266 8meg which isnt too hot... but I agree that magicfilter should be included in slackware and other distributions..... or at least write it into the HOWTO... I spent a long time getting printing to work like it said in the howto and was amazed when i could just lpr a postscript doc to my deskjet 660c and out it pops.... then i found magicfilter and that did everything i did but better with no work on my part..... printing is important to alot of people... perhaps a 'printconfig' script for slackware with magicfilter included would be perfect and help the acceptance of linux...... John ------------------------------ From: mingo@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Molnar Ingo) Subject: Re: Will Linux work with the P6 ??? Date: 4 Dec 1995 17:32:29 GMT Eric Kahler (ekahler@mars.superlink.net) wrote: > Hi, > I'm not running out to buy one today (or next year), > but I was curious about wether or not Linux will run > on a P6 processor. it already runs it :) benchmarks (taken from an article): kernel recompilation in 2 minutes 50 seconds ------------------------------ From: "Leonard N. Zubkoff" Subject: Re: BusLogic Flashpoint SCSI adapter support? Date: 30 Nov 1995 13:16:37 -0800 In article <49kr00$5ub@isis.fiu.edu> kvarga01@serss1.fiu.edu (Kendrick Vargas) writes: Hi, I currently have a new Micron P133 which uses a Buslogic Flashpoint PCI SCSI adapter. When I tried to install linux, it could not find my SCSI adapter. I later found out that the slackware release I had (March '95) didn't support my SCSI adapter. I am a NEWBIE (sorry, no flames please). I was just wondering if and when there will be support for my SCSI adapter. I am very happy running NT, but would also like to see Linux on my system... The FlashPoint LT, also known as the 930 Ultra, implements a different host interface from the MultiMaster cards and is not supported by a Linux driver as yet. If you want to run Linux any time soon, I suggest you get a 946C instead. A call to your sales representative at Micron also couldn't hurt, though it's not clear they are helping people get 946Cs. Leonard ------------------------------ From: tiakjung@iss.nus.sg (Chng Tiak-Jung) Subject: Strange behaviour of kernel 1.3.45 Date: 5 Dec 1995 02:33:14 GMT I wonder anyone encounter a similar problem as I do here. Over here, we have Linux 1.3.45 running on a Pentium machine. My colleague decided to benchmark it using his program which is very computationally intensive (optical character recognition application). Using 'time' in tcsh, we discovered that in term of CPU time, the system has outperformed Sun SPARC 20. However, in term of elapsed time, it is only closed to Sun SPARC 20's performance. Looking at other statistics, it shows that the process generated a lots of page faults (3000+ for a single run that last a few minutes). I wonder is this a kernel problem, programming error or problem with tcsh? Thanks for any enlightenment. Regards, T J -- Chng Tiak-Jung Internet: tiakjung@iss.nus.sg Institute of Systems Science Tel: (65) 772-6704 National University of Singapore Fax: (65) 774-4998 Singapore 119597 http://tiakjung.iss.nus.sg:8888/ ------------------------------ From: sviznyuk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sergei Viznyuk) Subject: libc 5.2.16 incompatible with libc.5.0.9? Date: 5 Dec 1995 03:06:19 GMT As soon as I installed binary distribution of libc5.2.16 as many things stopped working, most grave case being "make". Under libc.5.0.9 everything was wonderful. I had to revert back to 5.0.9. I have heard libg++.so.27 is incompatible in some things like i/o with libc.5.0.9. I assume 5.2.16 jumped on libg++.so.27 vagon.. Did anybody had something like that? Serge ------------------------------ From: ajc500@leonard.anu.edu.au (Andrew J Chalk) Subject: AWE32 drivers? Date: 5 Dec 1995 02:58:38 GMT Hi, I've heard that there will be no AWE32 drivers until creative labs releases programming info for the EMU8000 chip. Despite this there appears to be quite a bit of info floating around the net about how to program it. My question is do people in the know think is sufficient info to get in running under linux and if so is anybody writing a driver? If not maybe I'll have a go myself... Andrew. ------------------------------ From: albert@snowdon.ccs.neu.edu (Albert Cahalan) Subject: Re: SVGALIB question Date: 05 Dec 1995 05:53:53 GMT >>>>> "P" == Phil Howard writes: P> Will SVGALIB allow an application to set up a video mode and then bypass P> all its function calls to go to the video ram directly itself, while still P> supporting the ability to switch virtual consoles and let the application P> know of the switch? Will the video ram mapping be remapped to a dummy area P> during away-from-virtual-console (so the app can keep on running if it P> chooses to)? P> While I'm asking, can SVGALIB be used to also do this in a TEXT mode? Any P> of the standard VGA modes? Custom register tweak modes based on the old P> VGA register model if the board/card/chip supports it? For this you need KGI/GGI. The KGI/GGI stuff is not complete, but there is a mailing list and you are welcome to help. KGI provides integrated kernel video services as a loadable module (no need to bloat the boot process) and GGI is the user-mode library recommended for KGI. Some web pages: http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~becka/doc/scrdrv.html http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~sse/scrdrv The mailing list is at linux-ggi@eskimo.com, and you can subscribe in the usual Majordomo way. It will not make your mailbox explode like the kernel list does. Right now the basic design is complete and we need drivers. (I think we now support some S3 cards and plain VGA) When this project is done, graphics software will not need to be suid-root, there will be only one video configuration file, DOSEMU/X/SVGAlib/SVGATextMode and such will coexist in peace, login spoofing and scrambled video modes will never happen... If you can hack and you have a video card, we need you :-) -- Albert Cahalan albert@ccs.neu.edu ------------------------------ From: albert@snowdon.ccs.neu.edu (Albert Cahalan) Subject: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux Date: 05 Dec 1995 06:23:27 GMT >>>>> "D" == David Fox writes: >> As of now, to get any kind of decent printouts you need a >> postscript printer and a filter to turn docs into postscript. >> Or perhaps you have been lucky enough to find a filter for >> you specific printer (e.g. HP DeskJet 500) D> I don't fully understand this. I can't tell whether you don't know about D> ghostscript, are having trouble with it, or are not satisfied with its D> output. The other question I have is what format the docs you want to send D> to the xxx->postscript filter are in. OK, here is the request: print a man page on an inkjet printer. You could print it as ASCII, but you lose the bold, underline, etc. (or whatever, I think troff has structure...) It looks poor. You could convert to PostScript, then convert to a bitmap image, then s-l-o-w-l-y send the image to the printer. You may run out of printer memory and crash the printer. While you do this, you get to test the speed of your swap partition. You could use the nice formatting escape sequences provided by the printer manufacturer for exactly this purpose. Unfortunately, there is no printer API so all programs must assume ASCII or PostScript only. You can't use this option with Linux. -- Albert Cahalan albert@ccs.neu.edu ------------------------------ From: alaric@babylon5.babcom.com (The Renaissance Man) Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Looking for a Linux-compiled copy of Perl 5 ready-to-use Date: 4 Dec 1995 09:41:04 -0800 Quoth oylerb@tdkt.skypoint.net (Bill A. Oyler): ] Hello, ] ] I am looking for an FTP site that contains a compiled version of Perl 5 ] for the Linux operating system. I simply need a compiled copy of Perl 5 ] for use with CGI/HTML programming. ] ] If you know where I can find a compiled version of Perl 5 for Linux, ] please e-mail me! Thanks! One word (or three, depending how you count): sunsite.unc.edu This and tsx-11.mit.edu are the first places you should look for ANYTHING to do with Linux. More specifically, the file you want is probably: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/devel/lang/perl/perl5.001n-linux.bin.tar.gz [Repost to correct typo in path - original cancelled] -- Phil V. Stracchino <> "The Renaissance Man" <> alaric@babcom.com Babylon Project Administrator <> Creator, alt.support.survivors.prozac HTTP://www.babcom.com/jwz/alaric/ <> Finger for PGP public key Browse HTTP://www.babcom.com/ for Babylon Project info ------------------------------ From: rao@hell.catt.ncsu.edu (Rao) Subject: Re: Will Linux work with the P6 ??? Date: 5 Dec 1995 06:44:09 GMT Molnar Ingo (mingo@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE) wrote: : : it already runs it :) benchmarks (taken from an article): : : kernel recompilation in 2 minutes 50 seconds That's extremely fast. Does anyone know how a P6 200Mhz compares to a dual-pentium 133 system under Linux? .. since the price ranges are roughly the same .. Paul Fisher rao@hell.catt.ncsu.edu ------------------------------ From: jdsundberg@mmm.com (John D. Sundberg) Subject: Re: Will Linux work with the P6 ??? Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 16:18:24 -0600 Yep p6:~> cat /proc/cpuinfo cpu : 686 model : PP"PJPPzPrP#PPHT$LD$ tV t/ t+ t6DRQYRQRQRQUWVS\$0|$< mask : Unknown vid : GenuineIntel fdiv_bug : no math : yes hlt : yes wp : yes Integrated NPU : yes Enhanced VM86 : yes IO Breakpoints : yes 4MB Pages : yes TS Counters : yes Pentium MSR : yes Mach. Ch. Exep. : yes CMPXCHGB8B : yes BogoMips : 132.88 Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M. ------------------------------ From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) Subject: Kernel symbol refs in loadable module? Date: 29 Nov 1995 21:09:50 GMT After an upgrade to ELF, to modules 1.1.87, and to Linux 1.2.11 a loadable module I wrote and have been using is suddenly unable to find any of the kernel symbols it references (error from insmod). Doing a ksyms -a I find them there; it happens regardless of whether or not I've enable kernel symbol versions in the kernel. I didn't find any information on this in the ELF-howto or the modules README files. Help! -- =============================================================================== Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone: (505) 646-1605 Assistant Professor FAX: (505) 646-1002 Department of Computer Science http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer New Mexico State University Las Cruces, NM 88003 ------------------------------ From: s923298@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Hong Niu) Subject: Kernel recompiling Date: 5 Dec 1995 12:27:44 GMT ------------------------------ From: proteus@xmission.com (The Proteus) Subject: Building Linux from scratch....?? Date: 5 Dec 1995 12:36:28 GMT Hello all... I was wondering just how rigorous building a Linux distribution from scratch would be... what steps to be taken, and if it is at all feasible. TIA! Proteus@XMission.com ------------------------------ From: Andreas Hammarstedt Subject: Re: BSD Sockets ( Buffered? ) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 13:40:45 +0100 I'm not sure how you're intending to transfer the cmd line args, but both sides have to know the exact amount of strings and their length (as I'm assuming you're using a single socket line). You don't have to acknowledge anything you send on a socket stream and you don't have to buffer anything either, as the stream handles that (of course, you can decide if you want buffered or unbuffered streams; buffered is standard). But you have to know the length of the transfer. A good way to debug is checking return values on all calls and displaying eventual errors with perror(). Hope I helped some. -- Andreas Hammarstedt aha@solace.mh.se | haman@nts.mh.se | aha@vbb.se http://www.solace.mh.se/~aha ------------------------------ From: Robert Budzynski Subject: Re: Searching for ROB NATION Date: 5 Dec 1995 14:50:39 GMT Hi there! >AFAIK, no one is maintaining rclock, but then it's so simple it doesn't >need any maintaining. [Unless of course you've got a mystical fancy rclock >version, but I don't know about that, just rumors.] >I put up a copy of the old Rob Nation rclock code: >ftp://ftp.best.com/pub/newton/rclock/rclock.tar.gz [snip] >-- >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Gregory H. Margo No free speech restrictions on the Internet! >gmargo@newton.vip.best.com ms windows makes me ill newton@best.com Well, I downloaded it last night, and it works OK... except for one funny quirk: rclock is supposed to set its icon name to the current time string. When I ran it at 11 PM, the icon name said it's 11 *AM*. My system clock *is* set OK! Maybe this does call for some maintaining... rjb ------------------------------ From: swetland@uiuc.edu (Brian J. Swetland) Subject: Re: Netscape/Mosaic for ELF Date: 2 Dec 1995 05:54:41 GMT Darren J Moffat (darren@xarius.demon.co.uk) wrote: : Where can I get either Netscape or Mosaic (or Hot Java) compiled for ELF, : preferably with only the Motif (libXm) linked statically and the rest : dynamically linked. : I've got a competely ELF system and I've trashed my a.out libs (and I don't : want to install them for just one program). : Any chance some kind person with an ELF Motif license could make a WWW browser : available Mosaic 2.7b3 (due out soon - we're cleaning up a few last bugs) will be distributed as a Linux/ELF binary (w/ Motif 2.0 staticly linked) -- Brian J. Swetland NCSA Software Development Group, Mosaic/X Developer swetland@uiuc.edu http://hagbard.ncsa.uiuc.edu/swetland/ ------------------------------ From: ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig) Subject: Re: Will Linux work with the P6 ??? Date: 4 Dec 1995 10:53:18 +0100 Reply-To: Thomas.Koenig@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de In comp.os.linux.development.system, Eric Kahler wrote: >I'm not running out to buy one today (or next year), >but I was curious about wether or not Linux will run >on a P6 processor. Yes. iX, a German computer magazine, ran it on one of the P6 boards they tested recently. -- Thomas Kvnig, Thomas.Koenig@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de, ig25@dkauni2.bitnet. 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