Received: from PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po7.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA02145; Sun, 10 Dec 95 13:23:42 EST Received: from SENATOR-BEDFELLOW.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA28918; Sun, 10 Dec 95 13:23:46 EST Received: (from root@localhost) by senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU (8.6.12/2.3JIK) id NAA21758 for Linux-Development-System-Dist@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 13:14:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199512101814.NAA21758@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> From: Digestifier To: Linux-Development-System@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Reply-To: Linux-Development-System@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Dec 95 13:14:19 EST Subject: Linux-Development-System Digest #102 Linux-Development-System Digest #102, Volume #2 Sun, 10 Dec 95 13:14:19 EST Contents: Re: How to make HD spin down? (Dan McLaughlin) Re: Standardized Printing for Linux (Peter Dalgaard BSA) Re: Are libc functions MT-safe? (Rene Pijlman) 1.3.45 Floppy problem (Dan McLaughlin) Compile linuxelf-1.2.13 --> Seg. Fault (Tohru Yagi) Re: Possible bug in .3.43 and .3.45 (Andries Brouwer) Re: Possible bug in .3.43 and .3.45 (Vincent Cojot) Linux Security - C2 and beyond (Darren J Moffat) Does Linux implement fullduplex pipes? (Sergei Viznyuk) Re: Library version number bugs (Perry F Nguyen) Re: Possible bug in .3.43 and .3.45 (Chris Lo) Re: Sumitting a new patch - How? (John F. Haugh II) Re: Where is ???? (Paul-Joseph de Werk) Re: Linux kernel mailing list... how to join? (James Tabor) Problem building dependencies in 1.3.45 (David Fox) Re: Threads - a better model? (Scott Schwartz) Re: iBCS for 1.3.45 (Paul N. Fisher) Re: elf (James L. McGill) Module loading on demand ?? (Eric Kahler) [Q] How to upgrade easily to a new hard disk? (Michal Szymanski) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: drm@canyon.sr.hp.com (Dan McLaughlin) Subject: Re: How to make HD spin down? Date: 10 Dec 1995 05:26:19 GMT Mitch Davis (mjd@tpg.tpg.oz.au) wrote: : >: : >I got a tool from a friend, thats makes my hard disc spin down after a : >: : >given time (it's for D*S). So I watched out for a similar one for Linux, speaking of this is there a way for a user program to tell if the harddisk is spinned down? For my laptop I want to write a smart bdflush that gets woken up on the harddrive spin-up and will only flush then. -Dan ------------------------------ From: pd@kubism.ku.dk (Peter Dalgaard BSA) Subject: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux Date: 06 Dec 1995 15:24:03 +0100 In article <4a3qtk$e0r@mailserver.oxfordcc.co.uk> jim@oxfordcc.co.uk (Jim Hague) writes: X servers for printers, anyone? PostScript for X-servers, more likely (aka DPS)! BTW, could someone with Windows insight tell us how and when, if ever, it avoids dumping bitmaps of the picture to the printer? I.e. in what ways could a generic windows driver for - say - a DeskJet print images faster than a PostScript one? -- O_ ---- Peter Dalgaard c/ /' --- Dept. of Biostatistics ( ) \( ) -- University of Copenhagen ~~~~~~~~~~ - (pd@kubism.ku.dk) ------------------------------ From: Rene Pijlman Subject: Re: Are libc functions MT-safe? Reply-To: R.W.Pijlman@inter.NL.net Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 21:21:27 GMT ctkwan@cs.hku.hk (Doug Kwan ~{9XUq5B~}) wrote: >I am writing a multi-thread application on SGI. >[snip] >I have a Pentium at my home running Linux and I would like to move >some of work from the workstation in my office to my home. I browsed >through the man-pages. So I found the clone() system call which looks >like sproc() in Irix but the two are exactly the same. I need to know >some info about clone(). Hmmm... did you read this in the manual page: BUGS By default, CLONE_ACTUALLY_WORKS_OK is not defined. There is no entry for clone in /lib/libc.so.4.5.26. Comments in the kernel as of 1.1.46 indicate that it mis- handles the case where COPYVM is not set. Good luck, -- Rene Pijlman At home (preferred): R.W.Pijlman@inter.NL.net At work: pijlmanr@usoft.nl. ------------------------------ From: drm@canyon.sr.hp.com (Dan McLaughlin) Subject: 1.3.45 Floppy problem Date: 10 Dec 1995 06:05:59 GMT Hi, The 1.3.4* series causes some nasty problems on my gateway P75 that don't allow me to use my floppy drive floppy0: Unable to grab DMA2 for the floppy driver ... no cont in shutdown! floppy0: FDC access conflict! Trying to free free IRQ6 I use the same kernel on my laptop with no problems. Any ideas? -Dan ------------------------------ From: yagi@comm.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp (Tohru Yagi) Subject: Compile linuxelf-1.2.13 --> Seg. Fault Date: 9 Dec 1995 06:40:44 GMT I'm moving to ELF system now. When I was compiling a elf kernel linux-1.2.13(patched linuxelf-1.2.13.diff.gz), I got a segmentation fault in "kernel" directiry like this: ================ ........ gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/local/src/linuxelf-1.2.13/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototy pes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -m486 -c info.c gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/local/src/linuxelf-1.2.13/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototy pes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -m486 -c time.c gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/local/src/linuxelf-1.2.13/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototy pes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -m486 -c softirq.c gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/local/src/linuxelf-1.2.13/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototy pes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -m486 -c resource.c ld -m elf_i386 -r -o kernel.o ksyms.o sched.o dma.o fork.o exec_domain.o panic.o printk.o sys.o module.o exit.o signal.o itimer.o info.o time.o softirq.o resource.o make[1]: *** [kernel.o] Segmentation fault make[1]: *** Deleting file `kernel.o' make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/linuxelf-1.2.13/kernel' make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 127 ================ I use gcc-2.6.3 involved in Slackware 2.2.0.1. Can I compile a ELF kernel by this gcc-2.6.3? Do I have to compile by ELF-formated gcc-2.7.0 and so on? Thanks in advance. Tohru Yagi Department of Communication Engineering Osaka University, Japan E-mail: yagi@comm.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp ------------------------------ From: aeb@cwi.nl (Andries Brouwer) Subject: Re: Possible bug in .3.43 and .3.45 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 01:03:50 GMT coyote@step.polymtl.ca (Vincent Cojot) writes: : Upon bootup, with both 1.3.43 and 1.3.45 compiled with all my standard : options (that I have been using since 1.1.95) here is what happens: : "Loading Linux...." comes up, the screen then jumps a tiny bit to the left : and back, the "d" charcater with the cursor underneath appears at the top : left of the screen and it just hangs there. : I know of at least one other person who has this exact problem. In patch-1.3.42 you can find the fragment +! Completely new video-mode handling code, VESA mode detection, support +! for new Cirrus Logic cards and some additional changes +! by Martin Mares , October 1995. This completely new video-mode handling code breaks on some hardware (including mine, for some modes). ------------------------------ From: Vincent Cojot Subject: Re: Possible bug in .3.43 and .3.45 Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 20:23:08 -0500 On Sun, 10 Dec 1995 Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl wrote: > > Hi! > You include a lot of information, but not the relevant part > (as far as I can see): what video card are you using? > > Could you check that 1.3.41 is OK and 1.3.42 is not, just > to make sure that it really is this recent change in video mode > handling? > > All the best - Andries I am using a Matrox Millenium 4mb. It works very well under X. No problem so far. I will check with 1.3.41 and 1.3.42 tonight probably. ,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-, Vincent S. Cojot, Computer Engineering. Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, Comite Micro-Informatique. coyote@step.polymtl.ca, coyote@info.polymtl.ca They cannot scare me with their empty spaces Between stars - on stars where no human race is I have it in me so much nearer home To scare myself with my own desert places. - Robert Frost ------------------------------ From: Darren J Moffat Subject: Linux Security - C2 and beyond Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 17:48:22 GMT Many moons ago in the Linux world there was discussion about brining together the required options to make Linux conform to the C2 requirements for system security. I gather there is now an (almost?) working shadow password suite, but there is a lot more work to get upto C2. I propose starting a project to get Linux upto the same level of functionallity as the Basic Security Module of Solaris 2.5. This includes such things as: Shadow Passwords Device Allocation System call level and application level auditing Others... I would also like to propose that we do this in such away that we can further enhance the Linux system to be a full CMW (Compartmented Mode Workstation), for those that are unfamiliar this includes things like: security classifications on all files - Mandatory Access Control, (ext2) removal of single all powerfull super-user, (kernel) least privalage system rather than set-uid programs, (kernel) access control list (ext2) (all of the above from C2) MaxSix Networking for secure TCP/IP (kernel/net) Secure Window System including Labeled Windows (fvwm/X11) (In brackets are some of the parts of the system we would need to change) What's the general interest ? Should we setup a mailing-list or is there and existing list which would satisfy the requirements ? -- Darren J Moffat | 128 Chapel Lane | High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, HP12 4BY | Tel/Fax: +44 (0)1494-449-537 ------------------------------ From: sviznyuk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sergei Viznyuk) Subject: Does Linux implement fullduplex pipes? Date: 10 Dec 1995 02:02:58 GMT Kinda like in System V ? Serge ------------------------------ From: pfnguyen@Viet.Viet.Com (Perry F Nguyen) Subject: Re: Library version number bugs Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 00:19:13 GMT In article <4a9b5e$lo0@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>, Wolfram Gloger wrote: >gonzo@magnet.mednet.net (Patrick J. Volkerding) writes: >> -rw-r--r-- 226650 /usr/lib/libncurses.so.1.9.7a >> lrwxrwxrwx 0 /usr/lib/libncurses.so.2.1 -> libncurses.so.1.9.7a > >> This is the expected name. If the link is changed to libncurses.so.1.9 >> or libncurses.so.1 (the expected name, IMO) it won't work. Resulting >> binaries will be expecting to find libncurses.so.2.1 and therefore won't >> start. > >Now this complaint directly contradicts your point 1. above. With >ncurses, the author decided to seperate release version number from >API version number, and to avoid confusion, he started with API >version 2.0 (since several 1.x shared libs were in use before he >supported shared libs officially). So where's the problem ? ncurses should have had its major version number updated to 2. ie. ncurses 2.0 Since starting with 1.9.7 it breaks compatibility with previous versions since wattr functions were renamed to wattr_ in the shared library, among others -- -- pub 1024/0D97E00D 1995/01/01 Perry "Huy" Francis Nguyen Key fingerprint = CE 62 F2 01 33 87 9D 89 BC 53 8D 11 F9 A0 DE 8F - FTP ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/pf/pfn FTP or finger pfnguyen@netcom.com for PGP Public Key. ------------------------------ From: cklo@hkucs92.air.org (Chris Lo) Subject: Re: Possible bug in .3.43 and .3.45 Date: 10 Dec 1995 22:51:17 +0800 Reply-To: cklo@cklo.hk.super.net Vincent Cojot (coyote@step.polymtl.ca) wrote: : Description of Problem: : ************************ : : Upon bootup, with both 1.3.43 and 1.3.45 compiled with all my standard : options (that I have been using since 1.1.95) here is what happens: : : "Loading Linux...." comes up, the screen then jumps a tiny bit to the left : and back, the "d" charcater with the cursor underneath appears at the top : left of the screen and it just hangs there. : : I know of at least one other person who has this exact problem. : : Complementary information: : *************************** : : Running 1.3.32 at the moment, a.out system, slackware 2.3, gcc 2.6.3, : never has such a serious kernel problem with all the 1.3.x kernel I have : tried. : I've it at around .43, and since upgrade to .45, no problem. Same here running a.out, gcc 2.6.3. Chris ------------------------------ From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II) Subject: Re: Sumitting a new patch - How? Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 02:38:17 GMT In article <4a7e8i$l7j@gboro.rowan.edu> speed@jupiter.rowan.edu (Eric Speed (Sysop)) writes: >I have fixed a bug in the password program and would like to know how to >submit it for the next release of Linux. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Depends on which password program you are referring to. Find the owner or maintainer of the code and mail it to her. -- John F. Haugh II [ NRA-ILA ] [ Kill Barney ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151 [GOP][DoF #17][PADI][ENTJ] @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org C:\ONGRTLNS.W95 ------------------------------ From: Paul-Joseph de Werk Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,metronet.linux,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: Where is ???? Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1995 12:44:36 -0800 Oscar E Masters wrote: > > X-URL: news:4a8nek$n7a@feenix.metronet.com > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I recently installed slackware version 3.0. Most of the installation > was fairly painless but i have stumbled on a problem which has me fairly > dazed and confused. > I am able to compile a fair number of C programs that use 'vanilla' > include files but i started running across the following error for > many of the gnu tcp calls (such as #include : > > In file included from connectsock.c:2: > /usr/include/sys/socket.h:5: linux/socket.h: No such file or directory > In file included from connectsock.c:4: > /usr/include/netinet/in.h:78: linux/in.h: No such file or directory > > 1 when i look at the code in it has an #include to > > 2 though a directory exists called /usr/include/linux it has no > *.h type files in it. > > Did i somehow mis-install the gnu-linux files ? overall everything > else is working fine. Can someone shed some light on this ? > Should i try to reinstall the 'gcc' environment ? > Thanks. If i sound clueless there is a good reason for it. Did you install your linux kernal source tree? /usr/include/linux is usually a soft link to /usr/src/linux/include/linux (I believe that's right.) If I was at home I'd be able to verify that for you, but you should be able to figure it out from there. :-) -- | Paul-Joseph "Dragon" de Werk, BSCS | | | http://www.calweb.com/~merlyn/ | Intel Corporation | | Systems Partners +------------+ Programmer/Analyst | | Consultant | pdewerk@pcocd2.intel.com | | merlyn@calweb.com | http://www-fes.fm.intel.com/~pdewerk/ | ------------------------------ From: James Tabor Subject: Re: Linux kernel mailing list... how to join? Date: 6 Dec 1995 10:28:15 GMT Send the following to Majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu: subscribe linux-kernel jt ------------------------------ From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) Subject: Problem building dependencies in 1.3.45 Date: 10 Dec 1995 08:29:56 -0500 When I tried to build 1.3.45 my "make dep" failed because the file system I have the kernel source on is mounted on /foo.c, (as in /foo.a, /foo.b, /foo.c). The ".c" confused the dependency generator. -- David Fox http://found.cs.nyu.edu/fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab baL hcraeseR aideM UYN ------------------------------ From: schwartz@galapagos.cse.psu.edu (Scott Schwartz) Subject: Re: Threads - a better model? Date: 10 Dec 1995 17:03:28 GMT davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen) wrote: >Regardless if what you think of the clone() model of doing >threading, I think it would be nice to use at least a name which >doesn't conflict with the standard AT&T implementation of streams, >where clone() duplicates a stream. Plan 9 uses the name rfork(). Linus knows that; he can change the name if he feels like it. ------------------------------ From: rao@hell.catt.ncsu.edu (Paul N. Fisher) Subject: Re: iBCS for 1.3.45 Date: 10 Dec 1995 17:10:26 GMT =====BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE===== Juergen Pfeifer (0616250291-0001@t-online.de) wrote: : Where can I get a working iBCS module for 1.3.45 ? ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/BETA/ibcs2/ibcs-1.3.tar.gz Paul Fisher rao@hell.catt.ncsu.edu =====BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE===== Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMMsUMZuEDkI0uzR9AQF4QgQA1Nbe/uOZQls7DNvX5Z6OUiKHWeXUHkri +uiAuG2ZCpSbLA6Bt62aJbm/3yMeaThDpzWbSZY+MiPqrEu3Q4fRvzESKsvSJTpf iBVPOrmrGpxW7Z6pEmMx+pTpopKlVDztigaf8/vttKvHTpuDxzFBrIg0WYCtDrYg nx5/p6WliA0= =xmNJ =====END PGP SIGNATURE===== ------------------------------ From: fishbowl@fishbowl.pic.net (James L. McGill) Subject: Re: elf Date: 10 Dec 1995 00:35:20 GMT In article <48alo7$8r7@shellx.best.com>, Gregory H. Margo wrote: > >Is there any particular benefit to compiling the kernel in ELF format? And how do you do it to the 1.2.13 distribution? The ELF-HOWTO mentions a patch but does not say where to find it. It does not appear to be in tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/patches or in /pub/linux/sources/system/v1.2 I already know I can use a 1.3 kernal and compile it as ELF. I want to do it to a 1.2.13 kernel. ELF-HOWTO, about line 742, mentions H. J. Lu's patch to allow compiling the kernel as ELF, but it leaves it up to me to find it. g-r-a-t-e-f-u-l-l-y---[ email: ]---l-i-v-i-n-g d-e-a-d-i-c-a-t-e-d---[ http://www.conservatory.com/~fishbowl ]-----l-i-g-h-t Too much of a good thing is WONDERFUL. -- Mae West ------------------------------ From: Eric Kahler Subject: Module loading on demand ?? Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 11:33:28 -0500 Hi all, I'm just now compiling 1.3.45, and for the first time, I'm going to try to load everything I can as a module. I remember hearing about a kernel "compile-in" which would load modules dynamically as they are needed. Could you tell me the name of this package, and where I could find it. Thank you. -- From: Eric Kahler. ekahler@mars.superlink.net http://mars.superlink.net/user/ekahler/index.html ------------------------------ From: msz@sirius.astrouw.edu.pl (Michal Szymanski) Subject: [Q] How to upgrade easily to a new hard disk? Date: 8 Dec 1995 14:34:48 GMT I am going to upgrade my linux box with a new, bigger HD. I could attach the new drive as a secondary HD, then make partitions there, "tar" all files. The only thing I am not sure is how to install the LILO loader on a secondary drive (i.e. /dev/hdb), having in mind that it should have a reference to /dev/hda as a boot device (as the old HD is to be removed and the new one will become "hda"). Any hints would be appreciated, thanks in advance, regards, Michal. **************************************************************************** Michal Szymanski Internet: msz@sirius.astrouw.edu.pl Warsaw University Observatory Bitnet: msz@plwauw61.bitnet Al. 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