Received: from SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po7.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA13680; Fri, 8 Dec 95 09:22:35 EST Received: from SENATOR-BEDFELLOW.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA13700; Fri, 8 Dec 95 09:21:28 EST Received: (from root@localhost) by senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU (8.6.12/2.3JIK) id JAA22538 for Linux-Development-System-Dist@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:13:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199512081413.JAA22538@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> From: Digestifier To: Linux-Development-System@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Reply-To: Linux-Development-System@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Dec 95 09:13:41 EST Subject: Linux-Development-System Digest #95 Linux-Development-System Digest #95, Volume #2 Fri, 8 Dec 95 09:13:41 EST Contents: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux (Mats Andtbacka) Re: libc 5.2.16 incompatible with libc.5.0.9? (Joerg Tuermer) Re: can't compile with inb(), outb(); linking errors (Nat Makarevitch) Re: Searching for ROB NATION (Gregory H. Margo) Developing products for (MS) Windows and X? (Joel M. Hoffman) Re: Swap-space on diskless client (Steve Juneau) Re: Crashed disk with linux (Butler Gerald E) Re: ld.so.1.7.11, please, thanks! (Chris Childs) Re: Submitting a new patch - How? (Andries Brouwer) Re: using lilo to boot dos from 2nd scsi drive (Debra Weisenstein) (no subject) (Oscar E Masters) Re: System does not reboot (Shawn Ruttledge) Re: Looking for a Linux-compiled copy of Perl 5 ready-to-use (Zenin) Re: Any advice on development tools (Jason Mcmullan) Re: What shared libs are loaded? (Axel Kohlmeyer) Re: Swap-space on diskless client (Herman Roebbers) Re: Standardized Printing for Linux (David Fox) Re: malloc and security (Miquel van Smoorenburg) Re: Bug(?) with the linux console (Daniel Simms) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mandtbac@news.abo.fi (Mats Andtbacka) Subject: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux Date: 6 Dec 1995 18:37:16 GMT Reply-To: mandtbac@abo.fi Dave Carrigan, in <4a2vl3$fr7@dragon.nofc.forestry.ca>: >mandtbac@news.abo.fi (Mats Andtbacka) writes: >>What you need here is a PCL (or whatever) driver for groff. >>Or, hell, a dvi or TeX driver for groff. That's going the awkward way >>around, I know, but... >In fact, there is a dvi driver for groff: Colour me embarrassed. Time to settle down with the various groff manpages and try to figure that system out, I suppose... -- " ... got to contaminate to alleviate this loneliness i now know the depths i reach are limitless... " -- nin ------------------------------ From: joe@nimbus.muc.de (Joerg Tuermer) Subject: Re: libc 5.2.16 incompatible with libc.5.0.9? Date: 6 Dec 1995 10:12:24 +0100 Sergei Viznyuk (sviznyuk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : As soon as I installed binary distribution : of libc5.2.16 as many things stopped working, : most grave case being "make". Under libc.5.0.9 : everything was wonderful. : I had to revert back to 5.0.9. : Did anybody had something like that? Here is a patch for make from the release notes of libc5.2.14: ---- RCS file: /home/cvs/gnu/make/dir.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -c -r1.1.1.1 dir.c *** 1.1.1.1 1995/06/25 03:27:16 --- dir.c 1995/06/25 03:55:22 *************** *** 20,26 **** #if defined (POSIX) || defined (HAVE_DIRENT_H) || defined (__GNU_LIBRARY__) #include ! #ifndef __GNU_LIBRARY__ #define D_NAMLEN(d) strlen((d)->d_name) #else /* GNU C library. */ #define D_NAMLEN(d) ((d)->d_namlen) --- 20,26 ---- #if defined (POSIX) || defined (HAVE_DIRENT_H) || defined (__GNU_LIBRARY__) #include ! #ifndef __BAD_GNU_LIBRARY__ #define D_NAMLEN(d) strlen((d)->d_name) #else /* GNU C library. */ #define D_NAMLEN(d) ((d)->d_namlen) =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/gnu/make/glob/glob.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -c -r1.1.1.1 glob.c *** 1.1.1.1 1995/06/25 03:27:18 --- glob/glob.c 1995/06/25 03:56:01 *************** *** 64,70 **** #if defined (POSIX) || defined (HAVE_DIRENT_H) || defined (__GNU_LIBRARY__) #include ! #ifndef __GNU_LIBRARY__ #define D_NAMLEN(d) strlen((d)->d_name) #else /* GNU C library. */ #define D_NAMLEN(d) ((d)->d_namlen) --- 64,70 ---- #if defined (POSIX) || defined (HAVE_DIRENT_H) || defined (__GNU_LIBRARY__) #include ! #ifndef __BAD_GNU_LIBRARY__ #define D_NAMLEN(d) strlen((d)->d_name) #else /* GNU C library. */ #define D_NAMLEN(d) ((d)->d_namlen) -- Joerg Tuermer, +49-89-48900271 Muenchen, Germany ------------------------------ From: Nat.Makarevitch@nataa.frmug.fr.net (Nat Makarevitch) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps Subject: Re: can't compile with inb(), outb(); linking errors Date: 3 Dec 1995 22:18:44 +0100 >>>>> "RW" == Rogier Wolff writes: RW> Jay Goldberg (jayg@iwl.net) wrote: : In article [ problems when linking object files with outb() and inb() calls ] RW> Try gcc -c -O2 poke.c Please be careful with -O2 because some recent versions of gcc may produce broken binaries. Use at least "-O2 -fno-strength-reduce" I think that versions 2.7.1 and up are OK. -- Linux ------------------------------ From: newton@shellx.best.com (Gregory H. Margo) Subject: Re: Searching for ROB NATION Date: 5 Dec 1995 20:34:55 -0800 Reply-To: gmargo@newton.vip.best.com In article <4a1m7v$531@bnet.fuw.edu.pl>, Robert Budzynski wrote: > >>AFAIK, no one is maintaining rclock, but then it's so simple it doesn't >>need any maintaining. [Unless of course you've got a mystical fancy rclock >>version, but I don't know about that, just rumors.] >>I put up a copy of the old Rob Nation rclock code: >>ftp://ftp.best.com/pub/newton/rclock/rclock.tar.gz >[snip] >>-- >>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>Gregory H. Margo No free speech restrictions on the Internet! >>gmargo@newton.vip.best.com ms windows makes me ill newton@best.com > >Well, I downloaded it last night, and it works OK... except for >one funny quirk: rclock is supposed to set its icon name >to the current time string. >When I ran it at 11 PM, the icon name said it's 11 *AM*. My system >clock *is* set OK! Maybe this does call for some maintaining... > >rjb > The icon shows the correct time on my system. The text for the icon string is generated using strftime(3). The time values are from time(2) and localtime(3). These are all standard library functions; rclock itself does not fiddle with the time values. There must be some problem with your clock, timezone, or locale that is confusing the localtime(3) function. Perhaps the timezone or clock is 12 hours off? I'll bet on timezone. Try "date +%r" - this should print the system's idea of the time in 12 hour am/pm format. It should match what rclock says. gm -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Gregory H. Margo No free speech restrictions on the Internet! gmargo@newton.vip.best.com ms windows makes me ill newton@best.com ------------------------------ From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) Subject: Developing products for (MS) Windows and X? Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 16:40:03 GMT I find that I have to develop some applications for Windows. If possible, I'd like to do this under Linux, hopefully using a standard widget set that will let my final program run under X as well. Basically, all I need is simple I/O. Everything will be in C, so I'll use GCC for Linux and probably microsoft C under DOS. (If it will mean making things more compilcated, I can do without X compatibility --- the key here is Windows.) Any suggestions? Thanks. -Joel (joel@exc.com) -- ============================================================================= |_|~~ Germany, Europe. 1940's ``A DISTINGUISHED speaker said that we must put __|~| 16 Million DEAD. our children first. We in Bosnia wonder if we have any children left. Seventeen thousand cnc Bosnia, Europe. 1990's children have been killed in Bosnia in the cnc HOW MANY MORE? last three years. Those living, some with gray hair and eyes and hearts of old men, are ``May the world you hardly children any more.'' live in be the world - H. Silajdzic of your dreams.'' - Debbie Friedman Prime Minister of Bosnia ============================================================================= TELL CLINTON TO HELP STOP THE GENOCIDE: PRESIDENT@WHITEHOUSE.GOV ------------------------------ From: sjuneau@bnr.ca (Steve Juneau) Subject: Re: Swap-space on diskless client Date: 6 Dec 1995 15:28:01 GMT Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote: : In <4a21pn$1jd@fbi-news.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE> loebbing@turing.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Martin Loebbing) writes: : >Can anyone tell me how to set up a swap-space for a diskless client? : >I'm using the kernel 1.3.45 on a PC served by a Sun workstation. : >I tried the following without success. : Linux can't swap over the network, or at least I don't think it can. : You will need to use a local diskdrive with a swap partition, or install : enough memory to run without swapping if you don't have a local disk. Part of the netboot package support NFS swapping. That's all I know and I still could not get it to work. sj : Rob : -- : +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ : | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | : | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | : +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: gbutler@Phoenix.kent.edu (Butler Gerald E ) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.security.unix Subject: Re: Crashed disk with linux Date: 3 Dec 1995 23:35:05 GMT : I've found in my /var/adm/messages a odd connection from : Nothin-But-Net.white.net : with a whois I've found : : white.net NS COOLPOWER.WHITER.THAN.WHITE.COM : white.net NS SHELL.BREAK.COM.AU : It's supposed to be a network and security consultants company : in Melbourne, Australia . : A telnet connection had been established at the exact time of : the crash ... : : Parsifal I don't know a whole lot about this, but it almost sounds as if someone uploaded something to you that managed to infect the MBR. Try doing a format /MBR on the HD or perhaps a low-level format. gbutler@res.kent.edu. ------------------------------ From: chris@softwords.bc.ca (Chris Childs) Subject: Re: ld.so.1.7.11, please, thanks! Date: 6 Dec 1995 17:04:08 GMT Try ftp://ftp.ods.com/pub/linux/ for the latest version. In article <49v9jl$4f8@zippy.cais.net>, bass@cais.cais.com says... > > >I've looked on sunsite and mit.edu for ld.so.1.7.11 and >can't find the darn thang'. Please, can some kind person >let me know where it resides? > >Thanks, > >Tim > > >-- >+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Tim Bass | #include | >| Principal Network Systems Engineer | for(beer=100;beer>1;beer++){ | >| The Silk Road Group, Ltd. | take_one_down(); | >| | pass_it_around(); | >| http://www.silkroad.com/ | } | >| | back_to_work(); /*never reached */ | >+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: aeb@cwi.nl (Andries Brouwer) Subject: Re: Submitting a new patch - How? Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 20:52:52 GMT speed@jupiter.rowan.edu (Eric Speed (Sysop)) writes: : I have fixed a bug in the password program and would like to know how to : submit it for the next release of Linux. Can anyone tell me how to do this? You are an optimist. Linux does not exist as a system, only as a kernel. The remaining software comes from lots of sources (like GNU/FSF). If the program has a known author - write to him/her. If it is from a known distribution, write to the maintainer(s) or some appropriate mailing list. For example, if you are talking about the passwd from util-linux, write to Nicolai Langfeldt . ------------------------------ From: dkweis@aer.com (Debra Weisenstein) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware Subject: Re: using lilo to boot dos from 2nd scsi drive Date: 7 Dec 1995 17:14:32 GMT In article <4a4s93$t86@news.electrotex.com>, jgraham@tenagra.com (Jeffrey Graham) wrote: > Everyone, > > Lilo boots linux just fine. > > Lilo wont boot DOS. I get an error message about "non-system disk blah blah > blah..." > This is probably a dos problem rather than a lilo/linux problem. Run dos's fdisk on the dos partition and make it a primary dos partition. Then it will boot. -Debra Weisenstein ------------------------------ From: Oscar E Masters Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,metronet.linux Subject: (no subject) Date: 8 Dec 1995 06:54:12 GMT I recently installed slackware version 3.0. Most of the installation was fairly painless but i have stumbled on a problem which has me fairly confused. I am able to compile a fair number of C programs that use 'vanilla' include files but i started running across the following error for many of the gnu tcp calls (such as #include : In file included from connectsock.c:2: /usr/include/sys/socket.h:5: linux/socket.h: No such file or directory In file included from connectsock.c:4: /usr/include/netinet/in.h:78: linux/in.h: No such file or directory 1 when i look at the code in it has an #include to 2 though a directory exists called /usr/include/linux it has no *.h type files in it. Did i somehow mis-install the gnu-linux files ? overall everything else is working fine. Can someone shed some light on this ? Should i try to reinstall the 'gcc' environment ? Thanks. If i sound clueless there is a good reason for it. oem ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware From: ecloud@goodnet.com (Shawn Ruttledge) Subject: Re: System does not reboot Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 22:15:43 GMT smurray@earthlight.co.nz wrote: : On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Tom Wheeley wrote: : > Yes, my system has never reboted itself, and so far I have just pressed : > the RESET button when it says 'Done' and the hard disk stops crackling. : > Haven't lost / yet :^) : But why? I have my linux machine at (M$ banned zone) home and it hangs on : reboot (IBM blue lighting 2/66) where as the linux box at work (Intel) is : fine. Is this just because of the CPU? My AMD DX4-100 Award bios system does this too, whereas my old 386-33 AMI bios system reboots fine. I would like to fix the problem. -- _______ KB7PWD @ N7MRP.AZ.US.NOAM ecloud@goodnet.com (_ | |_) html: http://www.goodnet.com/~ecloud __) | | \__________________________________________________________________ * Star Trek * Khoros * cyberspace * VRML * robotics * RISC * virtual reality * ------------------------------ From: Zenin Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Looking for a Linux-compiled copy of Perl 5 ready-to-use Date: 4 Dec 1995 01:39:40 GMT While biteing the head off a snake Bill A. Oyler decleared: : I am looking for an FTP site that contains a compiled version of Perl 5 : for the Linux operating system. I simply need a compiled copy of Perl 5 : for use with CGI/HTML programming. It's in the "d" disk set (develoment) of the Slackware release. Check out ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/linux/slackware/slakware It's in the d* directorys, you'll have to look a little. -Zenin zenin@best.com ------------------------------ From: jmcc@m5.vi.ri.cmu.edu (Jason Mcmullan) Subject: Re: Any advice on development tools Date: 5 Dec 1995 02:24:35 GMT Morris Lang (morris@tcac.com) wrote: : I am working in a team that will be rehosting a Windows based GUI server to X : (Motif). Development platform will be Linux, implementation language C++. : Anyone have suggestions as to the best C++ compiler, Linux version, third party : tools, or anything else we may need? Cost of tools is not a great concern. : We have been using SCO in the past for development, but this project's target : is Linux, and the BOSS wants Linux to be the development platform. Any ideas, : advice, or overall helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in : advance. Try Willows Software - they have a well-put together suite for "Windows-to-Motif" porting. http://www.willows.com -- Copyright 1995 Jason McMullan; all rights reserved; license for the Microsoft Network to distribute this text for US $100,000 per copy is hereby granted; all other use of this text by the Microsoft Network, including storing, relaying, or reuse is expressly prohibited; distribution by the Microsoft Network indicates full acceptance of the licensing terms. ------------------------------ From: akohlmey@rincewind.chemie.uni-ulm.de (Axel Kohlmeyer) Subject: Re: What shared libs are loaded? Date: 8 Dec 1995 08:45:21 GMT In article <4a500e$e8e@newdelph.cig.mot.com>, choldorp@piranha11 (Cris J. Holdorph) writes: > > Is there any way to tell what shared libraries are currently > loaded in the system? i.e. I want to know if the a.out librarie is being > used by anything. So, I can try to track down and eliminate the a.out > programs I still used on a regular basis (replace them with elf versions). try 'fuser' from the psmisc-package. e.g.: fuser /lib/libc.so.? tells you what processes use libc.so.4.x.xx or libc.so.5.x.xx cheers, axel. -- ========================================================================= Axel Kohlmeyer email: axel.kohlmeyer@chemie.uni-ulm.de Abteilung fuer Theoretische Chemie Universitaet Ulm D-89069 Ulm/Donau ========================================================================= ------------------------------ From: roebbers@mxsb30.ms.philips.nl (Herman Roebbers) Subject: Re: Swap-space on diskless client Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 10:59:43 GMT Steve Juneau (sjuneau@bnr.ca) wrote: : Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote: : : In <4a21pn$1jd@fbi-news.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE> loebbing@turing.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Martin Loebbing) writes: : : >Can anyone tell me how to set up a swap-space for a diskless client? : : >I'm using the kernel 1.3.45 on a PC served by a Sun workstation. : : >I tried the following without success. : : Linux can't swap over the network, or at least I don't think it can. : : You will need to use a local diskdrive with a swap partition, or install : : enough memory to run without swapping if you don't have a local disk. : Part of the netboot package support NFS swapping. That's all I know : and I still could not get it to work. : sj : : Rob I don't exactly know how it's supposed to work with Linux, but I have configured diskless SUN clients in the past. In that case you would create a swapfile on the SUN e.g. on /exports/swap/linuxhost. I remember that the SUN diskless client insisted that the owner.group should be root.wheel and not root.daemon (or vice versa, I can't remember,it's long ago), otherwise mounting the swap file would fail. Also a special swap driver needed to be compiled into the kernel for this to work (nfsswap). I hope this helps a bit... Herman Roebbers ------------------------------ From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) Subject: Re: Standardized Printing for Linux Date: 04 Dec 1995 07:48:41 -0500 In article <49iegd$g2h@kirin.wwa.com> kermit@wwa.com (Matthew D. Isleb) writes: ] As of now, to get any kind of decent printouts you need a postscript ] printer and a filter to turn docs into postscript. Or perhaps you ] have been lucky enough to find a filter for you specific printer ] (e.g. HP DeskJet 500) I don't fully understand this. I can't tell whether you don't know about ghostscript, are having trouble with it, or are not satisfied with its output. The other question I have is what format the docs you want to send to the xxx->postscript filter are in. -- David Fox http://found.cs.nyu.edu/fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab baL hcraeseR aideM UYN ------------------------------ From: miquels@drinkel.ow.org (Miquel van Smoorenburg) Subject: Re: malloc and security Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 23:58:26 +0100 (MET) In article <498egj$4vf@hermes.synopsys.com>, Joe Buck wrote: > >albert@krakatoa.ccs.neu.edu (Albert Cahalan) writes: >>>Hmmm, I wonder how many bugs are hidden by this feature. I think we could >>>find many bugs if the kernel filled the page with 0xde instead. > >I think the pages should be filled with random Zippy the Pinhead quotes, >so that if anyone prints uninitialized strings it would be interesting. >:-) > >(Or perhaps Klingon poetry, now that Klingon is an officially supported >language). No, it should be filled with Vogon poetry ofcourse! (Is Vogon already supported? And how is linux/babel_fish/xlate.c coming along?) Mike. -- + Miquel van Smoorenburg + Cistron Internet Services + Living is a | | miquels@cistron.nl | Independent Dutch ISP | horizontal | + miquels@drinkel.ow.org + http://www.cistron.nl/ + fall + ------------------------------ From: dsimms@hotblack.eit.com (Daniel Simms) Subject: Re: Bug(?) with the linux console Date: 06 Dec 1995 09:15:47 -0800 I have a very similar problem on a much older kernel than yours (1.2.13)... The other glitch that is reallly annoying is how the cursor displayed on the screen doesn't match the actually cursor position. (Thus editing becomes quite the exercise in dead reconing.) I thought this was only annoying but then I started noticing that when the bad scrolling happened, it seemed to be related to where the cursor was. Anyway, it's still only a theory. In case you care, I've got a Dell Lattitude XPI with the Cirrus Logic 7543 and some TFT display, and another XPi user has the same problem. But a friend of mine with an Ascentia 950, which also has the 7543 and a similar display does not have these problems (older kernel though, 1.2.8). Any ideas? Thanks a bunch, -- Daniel Simms "A common mistake that people make when trying to design dsimms@eit.com something completely foolproof [is] to underestimate the (415) 617-1258 ingenuity of complete fools" -Ford Prefect ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Development-System-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.development.system) via: Internet: Linux-Development-System@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: nic.funet.fi pub/OS/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Development-System Digest ******************************