Received: from SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po7.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA26779; Tue, 26 Dec 95 23:36:18 EST Received: by MIT.EDU id AA12438; Tue, 26 Dec 95 23:36:11 EST Date: Tue, 26 Dec 95 23:36:11 EST From: MAILER-DAEMON@MIT.EDU (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days Message-Id: <9512270436.AA12438@MIT.EDU> To: To: proven@PO7.LOCAL To: tytso@PO9.LOCAL To: basch@lehman.com To: jis@E40-PO.LOCAL To: tlyu@PO9.LOCAL ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 pyro.rh.imsa.edu.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with pyro.rh.imsa.edu 451 hangman@pyro.rh.imsa.edu... Cannot send message for 3 days hangman@pyro.rh.imsa.edu... Cannot send message for 3 days ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from pad-thai.cam.ov.com by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA08085; Sat, 23 Dec 95 23:22:36 EST Received: by pad-thai.cam.ov.com (8.6.12/) id ; Sat, 23 Dec 1995 23:25:31 -0500 Received: from GATEWAY by pad-thai.cam.ov.com with netnews for kerberos-wrapper@cam.ov.com (kerberos@mit.edu) To: kerberos@MIT.EDU Date: 23 Dec 1995 00:05:05 GMT From: schwartz@galapagos.cse.psu.edu (Scott Schwartz) Message-Id: Organization: Penn State Comp Sci & Eng Sender: usenet@cam.ov.com References: <4bbpu4$okr@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com> Subject: Re: Kerberos Installed Base Stats swlodin@delcoelect.com (Steve Lodin) writes: | I heard from a Kerberos vendor at a recent computer security | conference that the installed base of Kerberos is about 90% Kerberos | Version 4 and 10% Kerberos Version 5. That sounds reasonable. V5 has been shaky in beta, not to mention suffering from bloat compared to V4. Around here there are 100,000 principles using V4 (AFS version) in production, and three principles using V5 from MIT just to try it out. The AFS users might switch to DCE someday, while a couple of departments are now looking at SSH and avoiding Kerberos altogether.