========================================================= NOTE: These are DRAFT minutes until this note is removed. ========================================================= Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 2014-03-10 The meeting was called to order at 19:30 by dove. In attendance were Voting members: btidor codetaku dove dvorak42 dwilson iannucci k_sunter phurst tboning Associate members: glasgall jhawk lfaraone sgw srz | achernya Prospectives: asuhl dzaefn jogama jrafidi zoz Guests: Administrivia: k_sunter: The banner will be here on Tuesday. dove: If you're intending to attend LibrePlanet, you should e-mail me on the associated thread on sipb-office@, because we're going to have special badges for SIPB people. We're going to have a table there with our banner on it, and try to let people know who we are, recruit people, etc. If you can volunteer to sit there (March 22nd-23rd), let me know. SIPB Projects Report: glasgall: XVM's new RAID is here; we're hoping to set it up soon. Also, adehnert and I did some more work on pergamon, so now you can twiddle meeting ACLs by remctl. New Prospective Introductions: '() Other: glasgall: If you're a Comcast customer in Cambridge, you now have IPv6. They're handing out /64s. Other Other: '() Membership Election: dove: How did you get involved with SIPB? zoz: One of my first days here, I ran into Joe FOley, and he was like 'oh, let me show you a cool office and a group you should be involved with!' dove: Could you summarize your SIPB involvement? zoz: First thing I did was make punchcard-style invitations for the reunion that year, then I was webmaster for www.mit.edu until IS&T asked for that; I wrote the Ask SIPB column on what to do when you get DMCAed. iannucci: What should you do when you get DMCAed? zoz: If the stuff is really yours, challenge it. When you get any kind of request like that, under FERPA, MIT has to let you know about it, and eventually there's going to be a subpoena and MIT will tell you that they're giving them your information. tboning: How do you double space at DEFCON? zoz: You double space on a computer that's not connected to the network. jhawk: zoz, how do you feel about SIPB's posture in the media? zoz: I feel like SIPB doesn't really have a posture in any media besides the Tech; there was also some good press in How to GaMIT, which I take credit for because I resurrected it. VooDoo for many years considered doing the Men of SIPB calendar, but it was fortunately shut down. SIPB has a lot of respect, we did a lot of cool stuff over the years. glasgall: What are some things you think would be a good idea for SIPB to be doing to raise its profile in the media? zoz: Part of it is hard because now you can't create the first webserver at MIT any more; but I think advocacy is really important. I was glad to see SIPB weighing in to Reif with the Tidbit situation. I think being known as an advocate for technological innovation by MIT students is important dove: You've been around SIPB for a long time, you've seen many eras. What do you see as the biggest hange that've occurred in SIPB that you're happy/unhappy with? zoz: I think SIPB's become more open, the office is much more welcoming. I arrived at a bad time, when there were a lot of arguments, it was hard for new people to get recognized. It had a sketchy reputation; the lack of 'what's appropriate to do on the couch' conversations is good. I think this has been really noticeable in the last 5 years. achernya: I was late because I was stuck at work because I had a problem: I discovered that the code that I thought was working didn't exist, but the feature still worked. What do you call this? zoz: It's like that FPGA circuit with a completely disconnected area that was still required. I dunno what to call it. iannucci: Emergent behavior? zoz: Skynet. jhawk: The world is paying attention to surveillance now; part of that comes back to e-mail. People are using providres like Google more than ever before. What do you use to read your e-mail, and how do you recommend other people read your e-mail? zoz: I don't want to attract any attention to IS&T because I still use mh, and I don't want to be moved to Exchange. jhawk: Well, they're going alphabetically. glasgall: mh does speak IMAP, and so does Exchange, so your'e OK. zoz: The second half, any plain text fixed-width system so ASCII art shows up properly. glasgall: Favorite text editor? zoz: Depends on the situation; I use nano, but for developing on the Mac I use BBEdit. dove: dwilson, can you take that relic [the ctrl-alt-delete pusher] out? What is this use for? zoz: It looks like it's used for retrieving something. iannucci: The bends in the end are significant. dove: I'm actually wondering what era it came from, since I don't know the creator. jhawk: It was created Ike Feitler. dove: We should give a demonstration. [dwilson demonstrates by three-finger (three-bump?) saluting a keyboard.] achernya: What is the oldest working machine in the office? zoz: I dunno, I know things get updated and their names transfer. I guess I'm going to say the fridge or the microwave. glasgall: Microwave's younger, fridge I dunno. jhawk: Fridge was replaced at the end of Cathy Allen's tenure, so mid-1990s? glasgall: Older. achernya: I assert that there is a computer older than the fridge. achernya: I'm thinking of Binkley; it's still in the monolith and still works. dwilson: Right now I'm upgrading my laptop to a newer version of Ubuntu. I got this error popup [every character in the popup is a square, including the buttons and a title]; what do you suggest I do? zoz: When in doubt, I suggest cancel. iannucci: Have you considered a screen reader? dove: The office is burning down right now, what do you do? zoz: I know there's a save in case of fire box, but I don't know where it is. I'm going to guess it's the thing with the big sticker that says HERE on it. dwilson: If the phone rings, does anyone else have a chance at answering that user's question? zoz: Whoever's closest. k_sunter: You didn't write a script that takes every call? zoz: I wrote a proxy that made the update script update every half-second. dove: Can you find the nearest fire extinguisher, first-aid kit, and circuit breaker? zoz: No. [They're pointed out.] glasgall: What's something SIPB should do that it isn't doing right now? zoz: Be more visible to new people, but I don't know where we're not doing that other than not having the Tech column any more. I haven't had a feeling other than a vague depressing feeling about how much people know how to use Athena these days, and I think that's a shame. dove: I move that srz ask the question. srz: Why do you want to become a SIPB member? zoz: Because I think SIPB has very important goals and I would like to help further them. [Meeting closes, zoz elected 10-0-0, meeting opens.] zoz: At the risk of grandstanding, this was one of the very first runs of SIPB t-shirts. I've been saving it for this, still in its original packaging. [zoz puts it on over his shirt.] The meeting was adjourned at 19:59. Minutes taken and submitted by phurst.