Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 2 November 1981 The meeting was called to order at 19:32 by William M. York. In attendance were JR, barmar, RK, GMP, TZS, WMY, Alan, Naha, KYM, RLL, WER DCP, Lai, LRH, WER, JIS. Late were: HDT, CAH The minutes of the meeting of 26 October 1981 were read and accepted as corrected. Barmar got alot [not much, alot] of abuse. Treasurer's Report: The treasurer is at the LSC elections meeting. The October spending: Multics $7,880.61, $1796.79 of which was SIPB and SIPBADMIN. 370: 223.89, JCF: 6.02 Total: 8104.12, about $4K less than last year this month. Coop: 716.60 Year thru end of Oct.: $21,474.93 (last year $32,588.14) Month to date Multics: $1331.91 Year to date: $22,806.84 (without November JCF and 370) Please enter Coop payments in the cashbook. People are borrowing too much money from the cashbox. The SIPB_print station password wasn't in the cashbox today, so WER couldn't start up the daemon. HDT came in during this. CAH came in during this. Chairman's Report: The chairman mumbled. He was working on his house all weekend. Office Report: WMY fooshed the desk today. KYM's mother just almost got her doctorate. There are just some formalities to be taken care of. The little plant in the cup on the front desk was knocked over several times today by Taft and barmar. Barmar gave a lesson on filing ouput. We got new student phone directories this week. They seem to be winning. The Institute has trouble updating their mailing addresses for students and alumni. The new method of running the daemon is a win. The phone company came and fixed the cord on the front desk phone. Computer Services: Barmar spoke to Dorothy Corbett about us paying for students in IPS courses. She would like individual requisitions. Barmar will suggest that we give them meal tickets and then pay the total later by req. We should post Series 1 documentation by the VT100's in the Student Center and McCormick. Remember to recreate the home_dirs and new_user students who are being reinstated, i.e. who were previously deleted. Can we make this happen automatically? No, because the tools cannot tell the difference between a real new student and a reinstated one. Perhaps the deleting tools should just empty the directory but leave it. You would still have to new_user him, to create the mailbox link. We may be able to teach new_user to do the right thing, by actually checking the PDT. If we do this, then you will always have to new_user anyone whose cutoff you changed from the past to the future. Dorothy Corbett added some of our members to the OLC database. SIPB_batch will be run on the SIPBADMIN project. We created a project for Prof. Bloomfield's Cascon seminar. Bobby wouldn't let us use the name "17S03" because it is so numeric. We wracked our brains and came up with "XVIISIII", with the alias "17s03". Somebody else should volunteer to work on the Coop Policy Statement, as KYM's advisor advised her not to do it. Not much needs to be done. Barmar will. Telecommunication Report: CAH was going to try to call Telecom about the MacGregor dataset which seems to be around, but not installed, and there is still confusion about where the Next House dataset will live. WER thinks she has completed the dataset ordering forms. There is an orange book that contains records of terminal payments. Burton doesn't want to pay the full payment for their terminal last term, because they say that it was broken much of the time. Our records do not reflect this. WMY thinks that their terminal chairman might be remembering the previous year. WER will check this out. DCP looked up old stuff, and we decided we will prorate it. JIS will call in the SpinWronger for general maintenance. RLL has been talking with Eric Ostrom and Dave Clark about putting more terminals in the Student Center Library. The librarian hasn't any complaints, so we should be able to put more in there. RLL suggests that we put them in the area just outside the terminal room. Dave Clark has offered to put an 11 in the Student Center; we would only have to supply terminals. Are we agreeable to this setup? Can we rely on the Networking Group to not screw us and change its mind? It looks pretty safe, as Eric is on our side. Publications Report: When you take a batch of publications from the file cabinet, check to see if a new batch needs to go to Beane. We sold 20 LISP Notes to Symbolics. Annual-Report Report: Jay has written the treasurer's report section, but it doesn't end in a newline. Otherwise it was OK. GMP has processed the stats. 54% percent of our allocations were for text processing. How did we manage to use up our budget before we did text processing? There don't seem to be too many comments on the new draft of the Annual Report. More work this Thursday at 19:30. Other: Nothing. Applications: Warning Form reprise - Debate Society (Eric Reiner) - He was using his and the Debate Society accounts for both things interchangeably. He didn't realize this was wrong, and he was just trying to save time by not logging out and just doing whatever needed to be done on whatever account he was logged in on at the time. Nat'l Soc. of Black Engineers - $10 by EC - so graphic arts could snarf their file so it could be put on a typesetter. Yong, Sui-Pen - $20 on 370 rejected - she was very abusive to User Accounts personnel and a SIPB member, because her money could not be added that afternoon. Do not ever give her any money unless she comes to the office. Watkins, Hampton - $200 for finishing crossword puzzle generation program. He has had $70 so far. He said he would be here tonight. We will wait. He is now here. He is planning to get hold of a half-million word wordlist. What happens if he finishes and wants to market it? Anything we fund might be in the public domain. He doesn't really care about that right now. The $200 should last this term. Given. There were two people on our projects who were in our PDTs but not in the PNT. One was due to a typo in the PDT, and the other was because the URF and the PNT were out of phase. JIS will fix this tonight. He will also fix the PNT so Jay can have "jay" as an alias. If you are ever logged in as SIPB_registrar when there is a crash, check things out when the system comes back up. Total appropriations: $2100 without Coop Autoed: Student: $1890 370: $0 To Meeting: $200, EC: $10, all Student. Coop: $30 Other Other: Honeywell Marketing in McClane, Va. has a Honeywell Brain Damage canister. GMP showed us a plot of the sign that they use. CRD is leaving CISL on Friday, Nov. 13, to go to work for Stratos. A few days ago several people were telling phone-hacking stories, and WMY recounted how he would call two numbers on two phones that could be tied together, and then waiting for them to talk to each other. He once did this to ArcMac and the AI Lab, and got SAS and RMS. They tried this again that night, trying to tie people to the Audubon Birdwatch number. They also tried to listen to RMF's recording of him playing his teeth, but he was home and gave us a live concert. Finally, they connected LSC to SCC, and it worked like a charm; the hackees were totally confused. J9 et al moved her car yesterday because of the streetcleaning today. However, they are cleaning the other side tomorrow, so her car has to be moved again. RLL has ordered an '82 four-door Honda Accord. The pumpkin drop was great. RK had a weird run-in with a state policeman on the Mass Pike on Friday night. We have a pool schedule. The meeting was adjourned at 21:50. Minutes taken and submitted by Barry Margolin.