Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 05/02/94


	The meeting was called to order at 19:30 by sorokin.
	
	In attendance were 
		Voting members: mkgray bert shabby tlyu
			harrisj mwhitson nocturne sorokin abbe warlord 
			beaners ghudson | rjbarbal nygren yandros
		Associate members: jcb mhpower jweiss srz 
		Non-voting members: 
		Prospectives: cat grisha jhbrown dimon dimdim jefreypu 
			krill | midum
		Guests: katzchen

	Secretary's Gratuitous Pre-meeting Comment:

		Anyone got a leather holepunch?

	Treasurer's Report:

		Treasurer's here and tired.

	Chairman's Report:

		shabby is not the chairman

		shabby nominates cat for nomination...  friendly
		amendment turns it into nomination for membership.
		many-0-rjbarbal.

	Office Report:

		sorokin: Clean out your cans.  We don't want roaches.

		we have a mac.  yandros: the mac's not connected, we
		need to get the adaptor that's behind a maze of
		customer service for the monitor.  We also need $100
		for the AUI to Apple AUI cable to get it on the net
		because Apple sucks.  For this price we can downgrade
		to the 6100-60AV instead of 7100-66, and still be
		okay.  The 6100 will come with a monitor and a cool AV
		package.  We'd save no money, just get a monitor and
		the AV stuff..  yandros will deal with sidegrading our
		Mac to the 6100.

		486 status?  ghudson: Buying computers really sucks.
		We could buy an Optiplex sans monitor for $3100 from
		the MCC.  486dx4-100.  Or buy from Dell directly with
		a monitor, 1M VRAM instead of 2, same price.  Third
		option: punt Dell and buy from PC's for everyone, but
		they don't stock 486dx4-100's, but we'd save $500...
		sorokin: we need to get the req in in the next couple
		weeks.  ghudson: My inclination is to go with the MCC.
		yandros: service?  ghudson: PCfE is 1-year warranty,
		Dell is ...  Lots of discussion goes on here...  It's
		fast talking.  ghudson's recommendation is to go with
		MCC.  sorokin: anyone have any really good objections?
		ghudson: I'm gonna go do what I want and buy it from
		the MCC.

		Exabyte?  mwhitson's working on it.  ETA for a
		proposal: Tuesday.  

		shabby was lame and didn't do the naming scheme thing.
		he will continue this 'til after finals.  

		bert: meadow's low on toner.  When we replace the
		toner cartridge it'll be the last one in there, we
		should deal.  Or we could deal now.  marc said he'd
		deal with toner cartridges, someone tell him about the
		box with the UPS sticker under bill-the-cat's table.
		Who wants to deal with toner cartridges?  dimon will.
		It should be around $100, it'll fit in our budget.
		jweiss moves for $250 for two toner cartridges.
		white-ballot. "yay."

		dale was going to deal with big staples, and didn't.
		the chair will beat him up.

	MIT Computing Report:

		The frame relay fell down this afternoon, while
		warlord was asleep.  jweiss heard a rumor that said
		there was an open circuit in back-bay that caused it.  

		jweiss: Last week po6 fell over.  several times.  The
		postmasters aren't quite sure what the problem is,
		they added memory and disabled from for a while.  so
		was zpopnotify.

		mhpower: umm, some people might want to read the last
		few transactions in the rel-eng discuss meeting on
		menelaus. [mhpower declines to say anything
		useful. mhpower admits that he is trying to spread
		rumor and create trouble. :-) ask him if you really
		care, which we think you don't. -- sorokin]

		yandros: Athena is going to change its help setup from
		olh to the web.  It looks like when you type help on
		athena it's going to run a program out of the SIPB
		locker. [Mosaic]

        Computer Services:

		ghudson: there was a complaint about a posting bug on
		my new nntp server so I backed out of it.  I'll fix it
		and it'll go back in next Saturday.

		jweiss: The default athena cellservdb contains the
		list of primary afs servers for each cell.  It now has
		four addresses for the SIPB cell, the ones on 18.181
		and the ones on 18.70.  It's a preemptive strike,
		people will get errors but it's okay.

		yandros: Web server hasn't been changed over.  bert
		resigned from webmaster and we aren't sure what the
		hangups are on there.  ghudson: I'd like to see charon
		freed up. 

		ghudson: kim sat down in E40 and wanted to talk to me
		about the hardware SIPB was getting, but it turns out
		she doesn't have to be involved. what does all this
		mean?  I/S communication may be less than spiffy, but
		it looks like everything is cool.

        SIPB AFS Cell Backup Report:

		mhpower: The backup's running, it's running 37 times
		slower than normal (it'll take 6 days) because it
		tries to connect to the servers that don't exist...
		people suggest to back out of the change to cellservdb
		on hodge. mhpower will deal.

		yandros: I did a build last night and filled up a
		partition on rosebud...  It could have been really bad
		but it wasn't.  

		tlyu: project.macbsd and project.sipb-cruft vanished
		recently.  yandros: more will disappear when we
		(jweiss and I) look around and see what's old.

	Publications Report:

		we have pubs.

	R/O Report:

		'()

	IAP Report:

		'()

	CokeComm Report:

		die he must die, the jerk must die.  oh wait, he has
		coke in his car. nevermind. It's on its way. 

	Other:

		sorokin: Tich Tolk want ad reads:  

		Technical expert to write competent articles for The
		Tech, as per SIPB's recent motion that The Tech write
		technically competent articles. If you know the
		difference between 'ktelnet' and 'klogin' please
		contact Eric at x3-TECH.

		ghudson: X11R6 was released today, people were ftping
		it everywhere.  XFree386 3.0 apparently has been
		released too but it appears to be the same except for
		the headers.  There're lots of new things in X11R6.
		tlyu's krb5 stuff is in there, but display postscript
		isn't.  look it up on www.x.org if you really want to
		know more.

		nygren: Commodore declared they're going out of
		business last Friday.  Also it appears that someone
		got an injunction against them for selling Amigas
		before they closed.

		the Underground Guide suggests that if you take 6.033
		you "make some SIPB friends."

		warlord: RSA-129 has been cracked.  The press
		conference was last week.  The magic words are
		squeamish ossifrage.

	Other Other:

		rjbarbal: Read Tich Tolk

		grisha: Russian House rules.  [there are a bunch of
		Russian House people up front]

		warlord: The IFC is rewriting Clearinghouse over the
		summer.  Yow!  yandros: At some point in 3.5 months
		someone's gonna ask you if you have some free time.
		Say _no._

	The meeting was adjourned at 20:01:15.


	Minutes taken and submitted by shabby.