From: pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 13:04:43 -0400
Message-Id: <9306111704.AA11063@ops-pmax>
To: dosdev@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: FYI...

From: pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 11:54:07 -0400
To: kerberos@MIT.EDU
Subject: Kerberos for PC's (DOS/Windows) [Summary]

This is the promised summary (thanks to the responders). It is being
posted to both comp.protocols.kerberos and kerberos@mit.edu because the
gateway between the two is still down to my knowledge. Some headers,
signatures, and text have been edited out (where substantial material
has been removed, the ellipsis is indicated with "[....]").

Please note the Kerberos FAQ already contains a chart of commercial
implementations across a number of platforms. The maintainer of this
chart (not same person as the FAQ maintainer) indicated his belief that
quite a number of implementations and platforms will be announced later
this summer and I am inclined to agree with him from what little I know.
So anyone interested should stay tuned.... :)

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Date: Mon, May 24 18:03:20 1993 [posted June 4 to kerberos@mit.edu]
From: pshuang@athena.mit.edu (Ping-Shun Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos

I would like to know if anyone has done any work at all on porting
Kerberos V5 client libraries to the MS-DOS/Windows environment, or if
there are any other public source distributions of Kerberos V4 client
libraries other than Brown's (the distribution pointed to by
athena-dist.mit.edu:/pub/kerberos/README.pc dates from two years ago).

E-mail and I'll post a summary if response level warrants.

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Date: Mon, 24 May 93 19:07:28 -0400
From: Stephen C. Trier <trier@odin.INS.CWRU.Edu>

I took a brief look at V5, but didn't get very far.  It was more of a
look-see prior to a port than the porting attempt itself.

Dan Lanciani has fixed-up Kerberos V4 for DOS libraries he was giving
away.  He fixed a lot of pointer-cast-to-int and an-int-is-32-bits
bugs, including some subtle ones.  I tried to get a copy, but our legal
beagles wouldn't let me.  (It's a long story having to do with
indemnity clauses and lawyers who aren't very familiar with
computers.)  You might try contacting Dan for more information.

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Date: Tue, 25 May 93 13:25:20 PDT
From: bobg@ocsg.COM (Bob Gassen)

In response to your question, the Open Computing Security Group (OCSG)
has ported Kerberos to the MS-DOS and Windows environments and markets
these ports as commercial software products.  We currently are marketing
v4 clients based on FTP's and Wollongong's TCP/IP stacks, and are also
porting these products to v5 to be available around June 30th.  Please
let me know if you would like some more information.

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Date: Tue May 25 16:36:22 1993
From: "Darren Bolland (EDS/Shape Data)" <DARREN@SHAPEL.UG.EDS.COM>

I don't know of public distributions, but I'm sure FTP SOftwares pc-tcp
has various kerberos client applications. Not sure if there is a
programmers kit which will give you libraries though.

Try sales@ftp.com I think..

Still - you may only be interested in public domain stuff.

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 93 17:27:22 -0400
From: eliel@stanley.cis.brown.edu (Eliel Mamousette)

Hi Ping, have you spoken to Paul recently?  He (and I although my stuff
is piggybacking on his work) has been updating the kerberos libraries we
did recently...  I am currently working on getting this stuff to work
with winsock...

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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 93 18:34:05 -0400
From: pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
To: pbh@MIT.EDU

[....]

I'm also experimentally poking at the KV5 distribution, and it doesn't
look pretty (it's huge, and this ISODE/ASN.1 is just grotesque). On the
other hand, it's not such a priority as it was two years ago to keep
everything 16-bit to work on 80286's, so 32-bit code will be a
possibility. and some of my filesystem headaches have been greatly
reduced by running IBM's TCP/IP on OS/2 and NFS-mounting the source tree
(planning to use Watcom's OS/2-hosted compiler to cross-compile to DOS).

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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 93 19:9:19
From: pbh@MIT.EDU (Paul Hill)

I guess you can say that MIT and Brown are still poking at the Kerberos 
version 4 code. It's cannonical site will be pointed to by 
athena-dist.mit.edu:/pub/kerberos/README.pc

Interested parties should check there first. If/while it remains out of 
date then a query should be sent to dosdev@mit.edu and we'll handle it as 
best we can. If there is a lot of traffic on dosdev then we'll rush the 
distribution to net-dist :)

[....]

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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 93 15:01:24 -0400
From: harvard!scubed!riipsdev.waterloo.ncr.com!ajlill@eddie.mit.edu

I've ported the v5 libraries to windows. Sending the diffs back to MIT
has been on my list of things to do for a while now. Since there is
apparently going to be a Beta 3 release any day now, I think I'm going
to wait for it, and then send back diffs against that.

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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 93 18:43:28 -0400
From: pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
To: harvard!scubed!riipsdev.waterloo.ncr.com!ajlill@eddie.mit.edu

 > I've ported the v5 libraries to windows. Sending the diffs back to MIT
 > has been on my list of things to do for a while now. Since there is
 > apparently going to be a Beta 3 release any day now, I think I'm going
 > to wait for it, and then send back diffs against that.

Cool! (Well, I still don't like Windows, but I think it's cool you've
managed to port Kerberos *DESPITE* Windows.... :)

Would you be interested in elaborating a bit about how you went about
porting? (e.g. pointers on how you are set up, what compiler did you
use, etc.) [....] provide enough info for me to put into the summary
that people won't bombard you with duplicated questions [....]

I might be interested in Beta 2 diff's even if they might be "obsoleted"
Real Soon Now by Beta 3 (and maybe I could even help do some of the
clean-up which would be required to make your work a palatable set of
diff's to be included with the distribution in the future).

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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 93 14:15:49 -0400
From: harvard!scubed!riipsdev.waterloo.ncr.com!ajlill@eddie.mit.edu

[....]

Ok, for the summary:

Requires: Kerberos V5 Beta2, ISODE 8.0, imake and the common error
          library source, a UNIX system, Microsoft C 7.0, Wolongong
          Pathway Socket API, and dmake compiled for UNIX and DOS.
          Should be easily ported to other versions of C and other
          Socket API's 

Builds: ISODE library, Crypto library, krb5 library, and common error
        library, which can be made into or included in a dll. Also a
        Windows syslogd

Avaliability: Checking with the suits about sending this stuff back.
              When I get the ok, could you put it on some anonumous
              ftp site or something?

---
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President, A. J. Lill Consultants                 (519) 650 0660
539 Grand Valley Dr., Cambridge, Ont.             (519) 653 9732
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					     voice plus 643 1624

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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 93 18:48:59 -0400
From: pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
To: edwardsg@iscnvx.is.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Your Kerberos ports chart

Hi, I have a copy of your Kerberos ports chart (dated 23 October 1992)
from Barry Jaspan's Kerberos FAQ (v1.4, dated April 16, 1993). Do you
have an updated copy of this chart? (I recently posted to
comp.protocols.kerberos asking about MS-DOS/Windows distributions of
Kerberos V4 and/or V5 client libraries, but I wasn't sure if you still
or ever kept up with that newsgroup or the Kerberos mailing list.)

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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 16:28:39 PDT
From: edwardsg@zuni.litc.lockheed.com (Gregory W. Edwards)
Subject: Re: Your Kerberos ports chart

I don't have an updated copy of my chart. I don't think I will do one
until the end of August 1993 because there is so much new stuff coming 
out at Interop. Any chart made now would soon need major updates.  It
seems that (except for Novell) every major computer and network vendor
will have new or updated Kerberos versions announced at Interop.

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End of summary.

--
Ping Huang (INTERNET: pshuang@athena.mit.edu), probably speaking for himself