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To: ostock@mit.edu, sipb@mit.edu
Subject: how to get mail back on the IMAP server from pine
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:01:53 -0500
From: Camilla R Fox <cfox@MIT.EDU>


I think at least the bottom part of Jacob's reply to this user should
be made into an OLC stock answer; I've seen the question float by both
on sipb@mit.edu and through OLC, several times.  (We seem to have a
precedent for mentioning pine in the stock answers, even if it isn't
supported by I/S.)

I'm not sure how to relate it to the redistmail stock answer, so as to
make it clear that it's the equivalent option for pine users.

-Camilla


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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:38:09 -0500
From: Jacob Morzinski <jmorzins@MIT.EDU>
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To: stephanie davenport <stephdav@mit.edu>
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stephanie davenport wrote:

> email previously in my inbox and all new email downloaded that evening
> was saved in my athena locker and i cannot view it on my laptop. i'd


There are two questions you might be interested in.  First, you might be 
interested in making sure pine leaves your mail on the server, if you 
use it in the future.  The second is the question of how to put your 
mail back onto the server.


1: How to make pine leave mail on the server:

The two programs named "pine" and "pine-imap" in the sipb locker are
actually the same program, with a different set of configuration files.
If you use "pine-imap", your mail will always stay on the server.  You
can achieve the same thing with "pine" by changing an option in Pine's
configuration.

To prevent "pine" from moving your mail from the server to your homedir:

  1 Go to pine's [M]ain Menu, choose [S]etup and then [C]onfig.
  2 Move down a few lines to the option named "incoming-source-folders"
  3 It should have a value similar to "<No Value Set: using ..."
  4 [D]elete its value.  The value should change to "<Empty Value>"
  5 [E]xit the configuration screen.

Pine won't do any automatic moving of your email after this.


2: How to put messages back onto the server

You can quickly move mail messages back into the PO server from within
pine by using the select command to mark the messages you want to move,
and then saving them all as a batch back into your PO server account. To
do this, you have to enable an advanced option.

  1 In the Setup Config screen, find the feature named
    "enable-aggregate-command-set", and set it.
  2 [E]xit the config screen.  The option is now set.
  3 Go to the folder whose messsages you want to move.  If you downloaded
    the messages using "inc" or using exmh, you should go to the [M]ain
    menu and then use [G] to go to the folder named "#mh/inbox".  If the
    messages were downloaded by pine, you instead [G]o to "~/mail/inbox".
    If they are somewhere else, you can use the [L]ist of folders and
    browse around until you find them.
  4 Once you are in the folder index, use the semicolon [;] key to select
    which messages you want to save back into the PO server.
  5 You will be asked if you want to select by [N]umber, by [D]ate,
    or by various other options.  Choose what suits you.
  6 When you have the messages selected, use the [A]pply command and
    tell pine to [S]ave all of the messages at once.
  7 Tell pine to save into a folder named exactly thus:
         {mit.edu/hesiod/imap}INBOX

Pine will begin transferring your messages back into your PO server
account.  If you have many hundreds of messages it could take a
while, so be patient.


I hope this helps,
  Jacob Morzinski                                jmorzins@mit.edu
  MIT SIPB


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