Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 17:55:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Luke Phelan <lphelan@MIT.EDU>
To: Charles A Sievers <sievers@mit.edu>
cc: <corrina@mit.edu>, <in-house-pikans@mit.edu>, <summer-pikans@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: People Crashing the night,
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i added summer-pikans to the fun because thats the list this really
belongs on, but i left in-house on so all the old crusties can harp in,
screeching their words of wisdom, let it be and so forth.

that this is one of our perennial battles makes the whole thing both dull,
as i've heard it all before, yet fascinating because, as setephen colbert
would say, it allows us to revisit our multiple past/historic selves.

the last 'policy' that we had on this issue, as best as i can recall and
as firm as any and every pika 'policy' to come before or since, was that
if strangers, who we naturally hate and fear and wish to poke with pointy
sticks or bash over the head with the femur of our last kill should all
the pointy sticks have been used up in the last, by which i mean most
recent, not the final, worry not, the last great tribal feud, the last
'policy' was that as long as there was someone specific willing to take
responsibility for the depraved ferener then we would tolerate their
presence with a minimal amount of overt hostility and maybe just like try
to poison their food, and certainly not talk to them, heaven forbid...

so the request then would seem to be in keeping with that 'policy', and
have been properly formatted as such, though i must note not filed in
triplicate, etcetera etcetera etcetera...

but still we are left with the fear of those who will rob us blind and
kill us in our sleep, rape our women and enslave our children in the
mines, entomb our hearts and cut out our tongues, lollygag and
whippersnap, that vague thing with no form, dread and despair in the
darkest black of unholy night, blah blah blah flash of lightening, clap of
thunder, cry me a river.

and of course the whole 'things we like to do because we think of
ourselves as a co-op' vs. 'things that might make someone uncomfortable';
another example of what i have argued elsewhere is the central conflict
for our species, that of the individual versus his society, man as a
social animal penultimatly alone in a universe without nearly enough
cheesecake.

in conclusion, though i hate hippies for their poseur style, wandering
protesting lefties sound, well delightful seems a bit strong so lets say
'fun', emphasis on the quotes, and i bet we can get them to do kitchen
duties in exchange for room and board.  all who oppose me are obviously
wrong and must be silenced through any means necessary, but only so as to
restore the democratic order.  after all, i'll be thousands of miles away
when the deal goes down and the city is in flames.

this didn't end as strongly as it might have,
puke

Only posers fall in love Bob.

On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, Charles A Sievers wrote:

> Hi Corrina,
>
> 	I have to say I have objections to the idea of 5 or 6 people who NO ONE in the
> house know spending the night here.  They are complete stangers to everyone in the
> house and in a way, have little accountablility.  I mean that in the sense that if
> you stay at a friends night, and trash the place, your friend will be pissed at you,
> also, you usually have more respect for your friends than to do that, but to stangers
> a random person might not.  Pika is also very suspect to theft.  Hell, there's usually
> a few labtops laying around in the dinning room.  I think it is wonderful that we can
> do that and there's never been (at least to my recollection) problems around it.  But
> it does make theft easy.
> 	I just have to say, the idea of a bunch of random people that no one know
> spending the night a pika makes me uncomfortable.
>
> -Charlie
>