From marc@MIT.EDU Thu Dec 23 17:08:36 1993
To: nearnet-eng@nic.near.net, nearnet-ops@nic.near.net
Cc: long@nic.near.net, jcurran@nic.near.net, usenet@MIT.EDU, jis@MIT.EDU
Subject: CBD, AI, MIT, SIPB, NNTP, MVC, NEARnet, and you.
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 00:35:13 EST
From: Marc Horowitz <marc@MIT.EDU>

1) NEARnet announces availability of CBD.

2) SIPB (represented by Marthag Greenberg) gets a feed for MIT.

3) AI sends mail to SIPB asking for CBD.

4) SIPB sends mail to NEARnet asking permission to feed AI.

5) NEARnet opens a trouble ticket to arrange a news feed from NEARnet
to AI.  (Ah hah!  Zis seems to be ze problem!)

6) Dan Long sends mail to SIPB informing them that NEARnet can only do
one feed per member site, but they'll be happy to send that feed to AI
instead.

7) SIPB replies that this is what they wanted in the first place,
corrects the trouble ticket, and starts the feed.

8) John Curran sends mail to Martha Greenberg asking why SIPB wants to
give a feed to MVC.

9) Martha asks, "MVC?  Who is that?"

You can all go home now.  This problem is solved to everyone's
satisfaction, even if you can't tell :-)

		Marc

P.S.  Have a happy holiday, and don't work too hard 8-}

"NEARnet: The New England Academic and Research Network, provider of
Internetworking services to New England and the Twilight zone."

From jcurran@nic.near.net Thu Dec 23 17:08:44 1993
To: Marc Horowitz <marc@MIT.EDU>
Cc: nearnet-eng@nic.near.net, nearnet-ops@nic.near.net, long@nic.near.net,
        usenet@MIT.EDU, jis@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: CBD, AI, MIT, SIPB, NNTP, MVC, NEARnet, and you. 
In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 23 Dec 1993 00:35:13 -0500.
             <9312230535.AA23171@hodge.MIT.EDU> 
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 00:54:14 -0500
From: John Curran <jcurran@nic.near.net>

--------
] From: Marc Horowitz <marc@mit.edu>
] Subject: CBD, AI, MIT, SIPB, NNTP, MVC, NEARnet, and you.
] Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 00:35:13 EST
]
] 8) John Curran sends mail to Martha Greenberg asking why SIPB wants to
] give a feed to MVC.
] 
] 9) Martha asks, "MVC?  Who is that?"
] 
] You can all go home now.  This problem is solved to everyone's
] satisfaction, even if you can't tell :-)

I'm sorry for adding to the confusion...   I couldn't imagine why
someone from MIT was asking about redistribution within MIT, and 
went looking for possible reasons.   By strange coincidence, there 
is a NEARNET site named MVC (with a contact whose name is a ringer 
for Martha's) which could easily be asking for an "ok" to send CBD
to the AI Lab.

I put 2 and 2 together, and got an irrational number...  :-)

Have a Very Merry,
/John

From marthag@MIT.EDU Thu Dec 23 17:08:49 1993
From: marthag@MIT.EDU
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 00:33:01 -0500
To: jcurran@nic.near.net
Cc: usenet@MIT.EDU, marthag@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: John Curran's message of Thu, 23 Dec 1993 00:11:46 -0500 <9312230511.AA04573@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Hmm..


   Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 00:11:46 -0500
   From: John Curran <jcurran@nic.near.net>

   I seemed to come in a little too late...

      Are you referring to having MIT send CBD groups to the AI Lab, or MVC?
   Technically, members are only supposed to forward CBD withint their site,
   and there is some header monitoring being used to confirm this.

   /John

What I asked was whether bloom-beacon.mit.edu could send the cbd groups
to life.ai.mit.edu.  The original trouble ticket was incorrect.  The
response I got was "We can't send one but you can, unless you want us to
delete your feed altogether."  So I've started feeding the groups to the
AI lab.  We are happy, the AI lab is happy (since that is what they
wanted in the first place), but NEARnet is still confused.  I have *no*
idea what MVC is.

Martha Greenberg