From page@clydesdale.cs.odu.edu Wed Aug 11 13:48:02 1993 From: page@clydesdale.cs.odu.edu (d.) Newsgroups: alt.best.of.internet Subject: Re: Results: rec.kibo.hunting experimental poll passes Date: 11 Aug 1993 01:39:32 GMT Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: clydesdale.cs.odu.edu This is truly a classic post...kudos to Scott! ___________________________________________________________________ Newsgroups: news.groups,alt.religion.kibology,alt.exploding.kibo,alt.politics.kibo,alt.folklore.urban From: forbes@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Scott Forbes) Subject: Re: Results: rec.kibo.hunting experimental poll passes Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 17:45:16 GMT ....Excerpts from the Book of Kibo, Ludicrous 4:19.... ,---, | A |nd after 30 days and nights had gone Joel spake unto the masses, '---' saying unto them, verily, the vote IS passed, for it doth have 100 more yea votes than nay votes and a 2/3 majority; ,---, | A |nd the masses cried out, nay, thy vote is a sham, and a joke; for '---' it was not posted to news.announce.newsgroups in accordance with the Holy Guidelines, and thereby it is naught; ,---, | F |or a vote that is not posted to news.announce.newsgroups IS like '---' a poll made of straw: It is not binding, and none shall honor it. ,---, | T |hen Joel became angry, and said to the masses, Thy Guidelines were '---' followed to the very letter, save that we were turned away from news.announce.newsgroups by its moderator, Tale; who made him the judge of whither my group shall pass or fail? ,---, | I | say unto you, the vote IS passed, and nigh upon the fifth day I '---' shall send the control messages for the group's creation. In no place did I say the vote was merely a poll; only the vote-taker spake this blasphemy, and his word is not my word. ,---, | A |nd there was much groaning and rolling of eyes from the masses. '---' The sysadmins said unto Joel: Thou art a buffoon, and thy group shall NOT be carried upon mine site; nay, even if thou dost issue a control message, mine site shall not honor it. ,---, | T |hen Joel spake bitterly against the moderator of n.a.n, saying: '---' Who died and put Tale in charge of USENET? How dost this man have the right to say whither groups are righteous or bogus? ,---, | A |nd the sysadmins spake unto Joel, saying: Tale is a respected and '---' contributing member of the USENET community: His word is held in high regard; his opinions are sought often on matters of great import. You, on the other hand, are a flyspeck, an insignificant grain of sand in the vast machinery of the network. Who then shall we listen to? ,---, | B |ut the newbies, who were clueless, spake in favor of Joel, saying: '---' Joel hath a right to his opinion, and to have his opinion heard; we have rights, and we demand that Tale give his blessing to a vote upon this subject, and that the results be honored as a legitimate vote. ,---, | A |nd the sysadmins laughed, saying: You have no right to demand that '---' Tale grant you his blessing. Where were you when we made the net? Tale's blessing is widely respected; verily, it comes closer to being "official" than any other voice in this wilderness. But it is HIS, and he can grant or deny it as he chooses. ,---, | I |f you disagree with Tale, you can create your own lists of "valid" '---' and "bogus" newsgroups, run your own votes, and send out messages to create newsgroups as you desire. But you are not widely respected, and your groups shall not be carried. Tale has no power to dictate the creation of newsgroups, any more than you do, or Joel does. But Tale IS respected, and when he says a group should be created, it IS created; and Joel is NOT respected, and when he says a group should be created, it IS ignored. ,---, | V |erily, Joel is well within his rights to send out a control message '---' urging the creation of rec.kibo.hunting, and Tale is well within HIS rights to add that group to his "bogus" list. Tale's message shall be treated with the respect Tale deserves, and Joel's message shall be treated with the respect Joel deserves. ,---, | A |nd the group shall not be created. '---' ---------------------------end of post--------------------------------- d. -- "Beyond the sputtering of my sanity, quiet sentry dreams arrived. Begowned with silver and gold they exquisitely tripped across my unconsciousness, waiting on my rememb'rance with eager visions." --Quentin O'Finn. page@cs.odu.edu