Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 05/10/93 The meeting was called to order at 17:30 by mkgray. In attendance were Voting members: mkgray warlord jweiss mhpower gsstark yoav ghudson dcctdw sekullbe | marthag abbe sorokin autumn bert Associate members: eichin opus gamadrid | srz svalente sidlives yandros Non-voting members: Prospectives: dmitri jmmikkel aragorn mib adam@mc.lcs | dimon warrend smit refahrme fastcart Guests: Treasurer's Report: Steven's book will be purchased tomorrow. Ghudson will deal. Chairman's Report: Elections for dmitri: Favorite RFC? None Set of guidelines for Usenet. NOT. LPOS? What does it mean? Losing Piece of Shit What is the standard editor? ed Doublespace in EZ? .li2? Look at stock answer A: .ls2 SIPB Projects? Almost got involved in porting things from charon (pronounced "shar' on"). But nothing else. 486 w/ resnet? Linux? Read mail from Mac? yes Rings of Multics? Has something to do Multics. "He's still alive? You guys are so inefficient!" -bert What is ring0? Has highest security. What should be saved in event of a fire? "Save this" Motion that dcctdw ask the question. seconded. Because of the quota. Thats part of it. I hang out here a lot, as most of you know. I like helping users. I'm a computer freak. Im falling in love with UNIX. Once I become a member, there will be a lot of things I can do. Like blow my nose on it. I'd like the root password. I can't maintain a lot of things because of this. There are others, but they're not coming to mind. Vote: 12-2-2 Office Report: Need two scsi-scsi cables. One appears (thanks kim). We need another. We allocated one last week, which we still need for the mac. We should get another one for next time? Keyboard on tongue is not ours.. Its sgw's. It would be nice if we had a keyboard for tongue? Should we 'req it? Someone should talk to wadlow. Its Thesis and Final Project, people should deal with cans. Do not leave cans lying around. MIT Computing Report: Thursday night: power outage. silver.lcs died and is not coming back! A large number of guest accounts are gone. A lot of E40 was down. RFP: rumours that they decided on something? (3-way split). They have definitely decided on HP printers. w20 is the first cluster to get them, in the beginning of June. Computer Services: ResNET is going to happen. We now have a nice specific direction for the next year or so. Should we support things that Athena wont? (Such as Linux)??? minicourse for runing Athena on your 486! Athena is going to support DOS and Mac. Should we keep a set of installation disks that people can use: Base or layered Athena? Athena. Could we work on a Net Installation? Should we consider getting our own real 486-box? Where would we put it? There are options. Ask for more office space? Someone asked about getting space on the 4th floor. Someone said it was available. It is at a premium. We've had milo, quiche, cutter, and deathtongue as experimental machines. What's been done? Table this for now. iSecurity? Root password on your machine? If you have your own machine, be careful! We can help with keeping machines secure by offering adbvice and suggestions. We should not be in the tiger-team business. What should Athena/IS provide to users for services? How do machines get named? Most of meetings have been moved onto picayune from beacon. Meetings file might have been re-arranged. Couple of zephyr bugs on quiche have been fixed. How much should we spend on a video card for quiche? Like, should we get an accellerator? How much is this? $100-600, someone says. Also, is there X support? Charon port? It will happen after finals.... What still needs to be ported? "mumble mumble gameserver mumble mumble". NFS homedirs and discuss still need to move. Play with MacZephyr, MacDiscuss, etc. Who complains that the Mac is slow? Its not crucial, since people aren't doing real work on it, like Mac Development. Should we replace the mac? NOT! VMA accounts? They should be continued. xv 3.0: Its compiled for all architectures except the Vax. What should yoav write to them about? Be student-like. We have a 1 gig drive on bed: its connected but not very useful. It should be fixed soon... NeXT license server? mkgray is being contradicted in the licensing department. They don't want us doing nasty things. SIPB AFS Cell Backup Report: Backup is done. it requires 3 tapes, now. Backup volume-set database has been updated. Cleaning tape for the drive? We have one. Maybe we should get a faster tape? Or maybe a bigger tape? We have more space! The 1 gig drive is online (thanks marc). Space! Instead of increasing home dir space, use a project directory, or use outland. Publications Report: We have publications. We need more iAthena. We should re-write it, some. Xmosaic -- world-wide-web client. It has hypertext. It's in motif. There are also a lot of other clients, like tty and emacs. yandros tried building for quiche, but we have no motif. There is a language HTML, which is used for hypertext stuff. Mkgray has been working on iAthena in this language. finals are almost beginning/over. After finals, we should have an influx of articles, in ASCII. R/O Report: yandros is our rush chair. Talk to him if you want to help. Computer tours? We should have some next year! IAP Report: '() CokeComm Report: We have coke. We have a jerk. Just fill the fridge! Re-read inessential refrigerator restocking. Other: warlord finished his thesis, "Charon: Kerberos Extensions For Authentication Over Secondary Networks" (he's holding it in his hand now). It has been signed. There is a copy in the office for people's perusal. Send him mail if you have any questions about it. Other Other: Pick up cathedral t-shirt from autumn, NOW! mkgray has a job: observing asteroids at wallace gamadrid removed brake from his rollerblade. autumn will be in texas. Write to her. SIPB shirts are being ordered. Talk to sorokin is you are interested. (This is info and money) fastcart: got his cart back. He also has extra punches on superticket if anyone wants to join him. warlord is having a party this friday, in honor of graduating, etc. Mail will be sent out soon about it.. See you there. cagoddar received Award from the Association for MIT Alumni. mhbraun is going to graduate. aragorn also has punches left. The meeting was adjourned at 21:04. Minutes taken and submitted by warlord.