Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 04/18/94 The meeting was called to order at 19:30 by sorokin. In attendance were Voting members: mkgray ghudson yandros sorokin shabby fastcart tlyu bert yoav mwhitson | nygren sekullbe nocturne gamadrid autumn mhbraun abbe Associate members: proven mhpower svalente jtkohl jweiss wes ayshames rei mjbauer srz Non-voting members: Prospectives: sethg aragorn sjens harrisj rcaileff beaners ericolaf cat jmmikkel smit Guests: spamlord Secretary's Gratuitous Pre-meeting Comment: Wow, we had a prefrosh a week after prefrosh weekend. We're popular! ...or something. Treasurer's Report: Treasurer is doing 2.70 from now 'til Wednesday afternoon. Chairman's Report: We have membership elections tonight, we don't have quorum yet. mhbraun, autumn, and gamadrid are being lame and eating now. We're now going to have membership elections for harrisj, beaners, and rcaileff. Here comes the questioning. ghudson: what sipb-related projects have you been doing? rcaileff: owner-mail-server, walkins. beaners: "ditto." harrisj: HTML document "Iness. X Resources" and random helping people. sorokin: rcaileff and beaners - describe oms. rcaileff speaks. beaners talks. it's good. yay. sorokin: What do you do with it? beaners: We answer stupid questions. svalente: Each of you - Are there any members in this room that you can't name, and if so name them? harrisj, beaners point at ericolaf. harrisj points at ayshames, who hasn't been around in n years. rcaileff points at smit. beaners points at jtkohl. bert: beaners, harrisj, rcaileff - name all your secret groups in decreasing order of allegiance. mkgray: name two sipb services other than the web, add sipb, and news. beaners: rtfm, webster. rcaileff: macintosh, walkins. harrisj: publications and outland. and keeping yoav off the streets. yoav: each of you name two members who aren't in the office at the moment. rcaileff: autumn, mhbraun. ("Hey, she cheated") beaners: abbe, gamadrid. harrisj: "Marc/k!" mwhitson: name a sipb server machine other than rtfm. they all get one. jtkohl: What do you do if someone comes in the office and asks for a VMA account. beaners: you ask them why. ghudson: "VMS hacking?" ra: you're out of luck. mwhitson: fire alarm? beaners: go to the frisbee drawer. shabby: What's that thing? beaners: That's your keyboard-fixing thing! bert: What's the save-in-case-of-fire box contain? rcaileff: frisbee, historical stuff. beaners: deck o' cards. mkgray(ra): historical stuff. svalente: among the three of you, name the last three chairfolk before jessie. beaners: mkgray, before him I wasn't here. beaners: warlord... rcaileff: web... yandros spews even older ones... mhpower: There's a person named Lorraine Rappaport who, thanks to sorokin, now is important to SIPB. Between the three of you, make a true statement about Lorraine. rcaileff: She's important to SIPB because [censored]. (good answer) mkgray: Someone asks for the mol. wt. of Formaldehyde. What do you do? harrisj: CRC. mkgray: Can someone take a book out of the office? All: NO. sorokin: how do you doublespace in ez? beaners get it. (.ls 2, formatnote) proven: between the three of you, what project have I been working on the last 9 months?) mkgray: netrek? rcaileff: that's what I've seen... yandros: It rhymes with threads... yandros: you're all here and you all want to go to coffeehouse and there's a prospective in the office. they answer. yoav: How do you double space in frame. yoav(ra): gives the real answer with help from ghudson. tlyu: Currently what is hanging from the ceiling is "Shabby's keyboard thingie" rcaileff: mosquito. beaners: koosh. harrisj: ... svalente: Traditionally who is it that asks "the question" and who do you think should ask the question today since he's not here today. rcaileff: bjaspan. beaners: svalente... gamadrid: As prospectives there are things that should have been mentioned to you as you were becoming prospectives... What do you do if someone wants to be a prospective? Can any answer it? harrisj: tell them to check the faq... beaners: tell them all this nice stuff about SIPB's member and then you get the net and drag them in... rcaileff: keep them away from the silly members who ignore users and that kind of thing. Explain that SIPB isn't just a private club for people who want to eat while logged in. You don't have to be a geek to join, you don't have to be a God. harrisj: it IS allowed to date non-sipb members. rei: office manual... Can someone tell me the afs path to it? /afs/sipb/project/doc/office_manual. mkgray: What's Multics and how's it relevant to the SIPB? (or how was it...) beaners: It's ancient history that lots of SIPB people make fun of. rcaileff: reads off the poster on the wall. yay! sorokin gives ra. mkgray: are any machines still running multics... harrisj: there must be one somewhere... mkgray: dockmaster.whatever.mil... yoav: how do you log on Multics? BZZT. yandros: How do you list the directory on the floppy drive on the C64? shabby: What's the official average age of the Internet User? rcaileff: 24. gamadrid: how many rooms has SIPB been in before and name them? harrisj: 39. rcaileff: 11... srz asks the question. harrisj: I've liked helping people do neat stuff on Athena... We need more documents. And I'm sick of all the time saying 'we oughta have this,' or 'we oughta have that.' beaners: Because I didn't run when I had the chance. ... because I like the things SIPB does, and I like the people in SIPB, and it just seems like a good idea. It's intuitively obvious! rcaileff: Well, I've spent some time in the past week thinking about this... (beaners: So did I but I forgot what I decided) I came up with a number of answers, like why do you join any student organization around here? I like the people in it, all those usual things... ...maintain services and generally do cool things for people. I like computers. mwhitson: What do you feel you can provide SIPB? [sorokin: Is there anything you think SIPB should be doing that it isn't?] beaners: I can answer people's questions. news maintenance? harrisj: more documents... and help people. And I'd like to learn things. I'd like to be slave to the webmasters. And I think SIPB should obtain nuclear strike capabilities. rcaileff: I don't have any new and innovative ideas or anything, I can help out with making it be more than three people maintaining machines, answering questions without making people feel stupid... helping deal with coke cans. (yay!) EVERYONE OUT. We talk. rcaileff 16-0-1 beaners 12-1-4 harrisj 15-1-1 We have three new members. Office Report: shabby: can talk yandros: Tcl book? seconded. Get it at Quantum? Ok. White ballot. yandros: Our Sparc should be here next week. We need a transceiver, if someone can slime one, it'd be nice :) or maybe not. offline. ghudson: Chair in the hallway. It's an annoying chair. It's drawn blood. I move no one brings it in. Second. yandros: someone should take it downstairs to the dumpster. gamadrid: I think that chair is older than most of the people in this room. We'll take it downstairs later. yandros: I said I'd clean up the office. I'm gonna do it today or tomorrow. Take your crap out of the office. ghudson: 486, I still haven't gotten catalogs... Someone should worry about the PowerPC. yandros will. nygren: the mouse on quiche now works. MIT Computing Report: no computing at MIT this week. Computer Services: bert: Unless someone gives me a real argument against it, I'm going to rip out all the tex cruft from the SIPB locker and replace it with pointers to the stuff I've built for IS. We'll be beta testing for it. gamadrid: You said beta test... mhbraun: It's thesis season. gamadrid: We don't want tex to break at this time... bert: Beta might be a bad word... yandros: as long as you can back out... bert: I'll tar up the current stuff... mkgray: Given word from ghudson, we'll move the web server to yaz, which is no longer testing news. ghudson: I'll reinstall and change the name later tonight. yandros: Expanding on that, the people who maintain servers should talk real soon, like after the meeting, about new servers. yandros: The SS20 order is happening day after tomorrow so the server talk needs to happen soon. SIPB AFS Cell Backup Report: any plans on backing it up? possibly. jweiss: have we... sorokin: no, someone should beat up monty. mhbraun: status of additional AFS space? sorokin: Lorraine said, Oh, I thought we were replacing the disk you lose with rosebud. We'll get some clear info soon. Publications Report: sorokin: beaners got iAthena and iZephyr but it was cleverly hidden under steve... this shouldn't happen... so now we have everything. R/O Report: '() IAP Report: '() CokeComm Report: gamadrid: We're out. I'll be fixing that RSN. There's now a cokecomm mailing list. Send mail there instead of to me since I purge mail... Other: abbe: The big Mac thing in front of the IAP office has been screensaved. Look on the Infinite corridor down the hall from the fishbowl. Other Other: gamadrid: Boston Marathon was today. yandros: TMBG concert next Thursday (ten days from now) Dunno if tickets are still available, it's like $16... At Harvard Square. Details by dcctdw in eve. fastcart: Went to the Expo, bought a new VCR, selling my old one for $150. autumn: On April 30, rjbarbal and I will attempt to raise the SIPB EMT count to 4... jtkohl: Thursday evening there's going to be a lecture at the Harvard/Smithsonian Observatory about the annular eclipse on May 10. jweiss: Biking... Talk to me about biking occasionally. shabby: Friday there's the Concert Choir/Orchestra concert. The meeting was adjourned at 20:36:45. Minutes taken and submitted by shabby.