Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 12/19/2005 The meeting was called to order at 7:30 PM by jbarnold. In attendance were Voting members: keithw tabbott jbarnold kchen glasser golem jhawk Associate members: jtu | ocschwar Prospectives: tilia danjared Guests: keithw: Point of order. keithw: Is it possible to have a motion if we're not in a report? keithw: Can I now move to allocate $100000 dollars? jtu: Jeff, would you like a cookie? keithw: There's a motion on the floor! jtu: Keith, do you want a cookie? keithw: Can I move that you give me a cookie? jtu: Ok. keithw: Point of order -- is there any limit on these? jbarnold: Not yet. Treasurer's Report: '() Chairman's Report: '() Office Report: '() Office Cleaning Report: jbarnold: I was warned to take things off the floor in my room in case my dorm floods. They've never told us this before. glasser: Where do you live? jbarnold: The MacGregor tower. MIT Computing Report: jhawk: MIT's Google appliance server has been broken a lot today. jbarnold: Does that break the search button on web.mit.edu? jhawk: Presumably. glasser: Fortunately, google.com/mit still works. danjared: The libraries proxy server is down. [Editor's note: jhawk thinks he's wrong.] Computer Services: keithw: I now have video broadcasting glitch-free, and audio isn't working yet. I hope to have it working tomorrow. jhawk: What channel? keithw: It's a private channel. Our digital channel is going to be 62, and our analog channel will be 11. We'll hook things up to MIT cable tomorrow. keithw: I also bought a hostname (sportcast-tv) using SIPB's money. jbarnold: I think you actually bought an IP. jhawk: Did you get the name sportcast? keithw: Well, I already had the cnames, sportcast and sportscast. keithw: Also, we have a logo now. keithw: glasser: I'm working on setting up a SIPB subversion server. I'm having problems with steve-dallas's vmware. I'm trying to get someone else to deal with the sysadmin part since I'm not dependable during term. keithw: Why not use scripts? jbarnold: There are problems since the normal port number is reserved, so you can't just do it trivially. jbarnold: Also, every user would have to run their own subversion process for everyone to get to write things in their AFS space that wasn't publically writeable. keithw: Couldn't we just give it a special account? jbarnold: The scripts kernel modules make it hard to have access-controlled writeable things. keithw: Well, we could use one repository for everyone. jbarnold: That's probably not optimal. glasser: I think we should use a daemon.sipb-svn principal that.... keithw: Why doesn't ssh to athena.dialup work? glasser: That doesn't work for publically accessible projects, as opposed to ones that are only available to MIT folks. It's good for hosting a source project out of AFS. jhawk: Isn't the web accessibility of AFS sufficient? glasser: You need an apache module, which I don't think is running on an existing machine. You need either file access via ssh or something, or running it through inetd, or the apache module. glasser: The important part here, is I'm looking for volunteers. Publications Report: Orientation Report: IAP Report: jtu: No mshaw! jbarnold: Oh right... we finally got rid of mike. jtu: We have two slide shows on the infinite. You've seen my design skills from LSC slides. You should make them, or I'll make them again, and have lots of fun. keithw: Can you put my class up there? 6.912. someone: What is that? keithw: My IAP class. Introduction to Copyright. jbarnold: I think mshaw thought that he didn't mind mentioning it as something taught by a SIPB member, but calling it a SIPB course might offend course 6, since it's also a course 6 class. jtu: Talk to mshaw, I don't want to make decisions. keithw: I really don't think course 6 would mind. CokeComm Report: jhawk: I hear CokeComm wanted larger Morons. Other: Other Other: keithw: The NYT disclosed that the NSA has been eavesdropping on international telephone calls and international emails, that have one person in the US, in apparent violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978. ocschwar: If you're bothered by this, send some email to another country. jhawk: An international email is one where both addresses don't terminate in .us. ocschwar: That's all of them. jbarnold: Well, there aren't that many wires that go out of the US -- they could watch those. glasser: I sent a dumb pun in the PS in an email to the course staff today. I got a reply pointing to a past PowerPoint presentation they'd given that used that pun. jhawk: The dumb pun was... glasser: Cache (cash) oblivious algorithms. keithw: This college student at UMass did a domestic interlibrary loan of this book by Chairman Mao, and he was met with federal law enforcement officers, because apparently this was on a watch list. jbarnold: They didn't leave him the book, either. ocschwar: If this bothers you, go check some books out. glasser: I'd like to allocate $5 for the purchase of the little red book for SIPB. keithw: second glasser: Uh-oh. Motion withdrawn keithw: Can SIPB get the worst book ever with like... glasser: Well, we've got... (points randomly at the bookshelf) keithw: We need to publish the worst website ever. Point of Order Report: jbarnold: (off the record) I'm leaving town on Wednesday and not coming back until the 9th of January. I think other people will also be gone, so we may be officer-less next week. keithw: I move that the total amount of money SIPB spends (allocates) after today and before jbarnold returns be at most $300. keithw: I need to amend my motion. Furthermore, no motion to supersede my motion shall be in order. keithw: I amend it to be until his death is reported by a credible outlet, or until January 12, or until his return. jhawk: You should decline to accept that. jtu: I do. [argument about spending on money] jhawk: But your second has not accepted your amendment. glasser: second jtu: What finals do you have? jbarnold: 6.034, 6.828 [argument over the validity of keithw's motion, and whether he ever stopped talking, and how many motions he made, and whether the amendments were friendly, and so on] jtu: Point of personal privelege -- I'm bored now, can we go on. ocschwar: He should just drop the motion, start over, and let me second it. jbarnold: Let's proceed to the vote. Vote: 2-3-3 motion fails. jhawk: Well, it was constraining the future action of the board. jhawk: It's according to Jeff's Rules of Order. keithw: Shouldn't he need to specify these things before the vote? jbarnold: I think we should end the meeting with a stack overflow of points of order. The meeting was adjourned at 7:51 PM. Minutes taken and submitted by tabbott.