Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 2012-07-16 The meeting was called to order at 19:30:00 by dwilson. In attendance were Voting members: dwilson phurst Associate members: asedeno jbarnold tlyu | jhawk Prospectives: asuhl sqshemet thallada Guests: Administrivia: dwilson: I submitted the SIPB bulletin board application and the first year summer mailing material to the ASA. Hooray. SIPB Projects Report: Office Report: Other: jbarnold: I'd like to sponsor an Athena account for Tyler Hallada. He's visiting Cambridge for the summer, he's been seen in the office several different times, and several SIPB members including Luke and Mats and think he has the desire to contribute, which requires an account. These are not forever accounts, they expire if they don't become a member, and I think it's an all-around win to sponsor these accounts. The normal process is to e-mail the EC and if there's clear consensus go on, if not bring it up at a meeting. dwilson: I think the original lack of consensus on the EC was due to a bit of vagueness about what sort of things you might be doing; I think you had ideas about sipb-minutes-rss? thallada: Yeah, I'd like to make a SIPB minutes RSS feed, but to send them out I'd need AFS access, and I might eventually look at Debathena bugs; I didn't see anything interesting but it's something I might do in the future. jbarnold: I think that SIPB shouldn't sponsor accounts for people who are friends of members, but if they want it to engage with the SIPB community that's a perfectly good reason. asedeno: That's a motion, right? jbarnold: Yeah. asedeno: Second. dwilson: I'm unclear on whether the board can itself sponsor; there's language about the final decision resting with the EC. I'm unclear whether the motion is to sponsor, or to recommend that the EC sponsor. jbarnold: My understanding was that this is a policy not set forth by the EC, but one set forth in the back; it does mention that if the EC doesn't reach consensus, bringing it up at a meeting is OK. And business is subject to approval of the EC, as is reading of the constitution. jhawk: My understanding in the past is that sponsorship is a special case, something the EC does. jbarnold: My preference would be to make a motion to sponsor the account; just like any business at a general meeting, subject to EC approval. E-mail will not be sent to accounts@ to give the EC time to discuss. jhawk: I'd say, all things being equal, I'd say the EC decide for reasons of deliberate process, though I could do so in the 48 hours, so maybe it's not that important. jbarnold: The motion is to sponsor, but mail won't be sent for 48 hours and the EC can exercise its supervision if it so chooses. [Motion passes 4-0-2]. tlyu: The IETF has deprecated DES in Kerberos. asedeno: When do we stop using it? tlyu: No comment. jhawk: Has the board considered asking IS&T to address this issue? dwilson: There have been a few individual inquiries, but I don't believe that the board as a whole has engaged with IS&T on this issue. jhawk: I'd suggest the board think about how to decide whether to engage. Other Other: phurst: Nexus 7s are shipping. jhawk: Without Marissa Meyer. The meeting was adjourned at 19:39:01. Minutes taken and submitted by phurst.