NOTE: These are DRAFT minutes until this note is removed. ========================================================= Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 2013-07-22 The meeting was called to order at 7:29:00 by achernya. In attendance were Voting members: tboning dvorak42 achernya dwilson dove sqshemet lapentab btidor Associate members: mitchb jdreed glasgall andersk quentin afarrell jhawk Prospectives: k_sunter Guests: Administrivia: achenrya: what happened while I was gone? glas: lots. dove: We made you a cake. Not really. jdr: So the cake is a lie. jdreed: IST formally apoligizwes for miscommunication and confusion regarding the card reader. We arevery sorry and please forgive us. quentin: Is it being removed now? jdreed: That is the only statment I have to make now. Additional data is still being gathered. The apologyu is concrete. jhawk: I find it intersting that your statement implies a degree of closure, and that it's coming from you, who is not actually involved, since steven was talking to Mark. O', curious what the update is from steven. Mildly worried that this means no updates. kjdree: guarantee that updates going forward. Working to learn more. I spoke with steven before the meeting, we've acheived reduncancy. That is not the last word, but those involved convey their apologies. NOthing sohuld have ahppened in the manner that it did. Feel free to officially reject apology. achery: I would prefer that oyu not reject dove: clarificaiton from steven. Did IS&T not do anything and semo goi agad steveL mark was talking wtih people from CAdove: ISA&T didn't do aytihng they had to apolige for. glas: IST apoligizing for let this happen. jhawk: Did IST approve this, yes or no? jdreed: Somehow a ? got turned into a . Not sure where, don't have the energy putt in to find out. INvestigations continue. jdreedL Proposal to allovcate 1100 to replace desks aroiund outside to make office suck less. Each desk replaced with ikea gallant table. Complete with Signum cable manbagement trys and gromets and hole saws and one gigantic 72x72 ex[edit thing which has drawers inserts to replace lost drawer spoace also general storage. There will be 15 drawer insterts, 30 distinct drawers. adehL keeoiug volume roughly constant jdreed: Drawers could be substituted for doors, 15 cubbies with doors. acheryL think it's better to have more smaller drawers. Members without drawers adeh: When you tried to assign space, were there pooeple in CA with drawers achL I couldn't make space for myself. THings may have changed since then. jhawk: I think drawwer space generally blocks on garbage collection and requests, not on physical space. But volume would stay rouchly the same na dunit would shrink? jdreed: Volume the same, only new constrant not possible to store things on eddimension greater than 16 inches, now 29. jhawk: allocation quantum will change> achernya; Yes. jhawk: will people retain same volume? achernya: No. Uncomfortable with idea of assigning multiple drawers. mitchb: ONly directly affects physical drawers in that area, yeah? Can we shuffle for people with dimension requirements? achernya: yes. jhawk: Location? achernya: replacing two shelves by windows. It's 72 inches high. adeh: Under ZSR? ach: Yes. Have to figure out audio equipemnt. adeh: sturctural? ach: yes. May have to screw to wall jhawl: Decision process here? jdreed; IKEA offers flexibility. The current allocation includes 15 drawer unts, with each untit two slide-out drawers. Willing to amend motion if anyone proposes cabinets. jhawk: is it all or 1? glas: It can be mixed. jhawk: it might make sense to contimplate mix. jdreed: things can be done after the fact. glasgall: ikea knows all about doding taxes. Set up as nonprofit to doge all taxes in Europ. quenitn: with for-[rofit subsidiaries mitch: Like tosci's but smarter jdreedL sure we can get them to honor tax break. jhawk: How is going to implement? jdreed; will drive self in one or two people quentin: Sugest pull people to see if want drawer or door. jdreed: Doors are cheaper. achernya: I think should not be offered more room. THink it's better to have more drawers than more space. jdreed; allocation is upper bound [Motion passes 14-0-2] glas: iannuci would like to alocate 52 for replacement door gasket Second and white ballot [Motion passes] andersL I move to second the motion to move. Proj: mitchb: The afs maintaners, largely kaduk, been hard at work. Some noticed, some didn't, all of sipb cell afs servers runing wheezy. First major upgrade in many years, since quentin and broder an dI did it. Now running modern supported release ach: running unsupported for only like a month? Congratz afs. mitch: old hardware is runing but only moira sync. Nothing afs-ish glas: XVM interstin gwekened. Successfully moved user vms onto half of new hardware. XVM ordered 2quad server chassis. Arrived on sat. COntused to discover that only 4 of 8 were present. Further investigation revealed that had forgtton to ship. New machines 3xmem, 2x cpu, had no difficulty in condensing 8u to 4 with room to space. Some glithces still, if you are experincing difficulties ocntanct matiners jhawl: status of 3down glas: at 4:30am, no one was around. jhawk it's not 4:30am glas: I had to work doay ach: can we get more sipb members to have bits on 3down glas: can we get 3down unpdate process to not inovle image map? quentin: Contribuing magsafe adapter holders, iwll install momentarily. The idea is tyhat you take the magsafe device, put it in the cable, ziptie it to cable. I will be installing them on all adapters. ian: Encouraging poepl to flex apple power cables is a bad idea. glas; That's how you get fires. ach: No new VMs booted on 4 new hosts for a while because experimentin gwith xm-migrate an dtoher things. cglas; Discovered xen peopl eborke things for any recent version of linux. ach: half of docs filled with todo: writme ian: Some heisensysctls, There were nontrivial sidefects of setting rpsyusctly on all but not one. jhawk does xmv believe nerokk issues discused resplved/ ach: no, believe switch is at fault. I talked to Gary, I need to send mail so we cna get a new swithc. Worst comes to worst, we'll take the SMR switch to W91. afar: Intersted in getting involved in helping IAP website, and in the process learning django, talk to me or zephyr me or email me. dove: We have a git repo now that works! quenin: didn't we have rcs kdreed: that's another failure mode, yes dove; ther was no git repo gother glas: fuck the xen project. other other: iann: the weather is tolerable now. glas: suspciiously timed with achrenya' arrival back in MA. If you steal decent weather again going to be words dv: perhaps it will get colder again when Vicotr arrives. 7:54:00 Project Updates: Other: Other Other: The meeting was adjourned at . Minutes taken and submitted by sqshemet.