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Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 2013-10-28


The meeting was called to order at 19:30:00 by dove.

In attendance were 
        Voting members: achernya btidor dove dvorak42 glasgall ianucci jbarnold
	       lapentab phurst presby vasilvv
        Associate members: jdreed jhawk
        Prospectives: ambhave asuhl dzaefn jogama
        Guests: 

Administrivia:

	dvorak42: I talked to Gary, and I'd like to propose a small
		allocation for dinner with Garn and some of the
		student maintainers to get to know each other.
	achernya: Gary and anyone else?
	dvorak42: Gary is the only one I've reached out to so far.
	[ strange looks exchanged between achernya and jhawk ]

	dvorak42: I'd like to propose an allocation [ ianucci:
		*whoah*]; that's about 10 student maintainers and 3
		IS&T people, given Mary's prices.
	[Second and white ballot; motion passes ]

	jdreed: Adam and I made another trip to IKEA for the rest of
		the original office furniture allocation. I heard
		objections to the table in the back being removed, but
		it's not permanently lost: one of the removed tables
		is in the hallway (feel free to bring it back), and
		the other is in my possession and can be gotten back
		with a week's notice.
	jdreed: I propose an allocation for $275 to get the inverse of
		the table by the door to replace the far table
		perpendicular by the wall while also looking nicer.

	jdreed: Also, during the cleanup we found out we have two of
		every kind of stapler.
	jhawk: ...different size staples...
	jhawk: I'd like to note that it's nice to be able to stand on
		tables when futzing with the light fixtures.
	jdreed: The new tables have a weight limit of 175 lbs.
	jhawk: How much of the original allocation did we spend?
	jdreed: $1200
	jhawk: Does the length of the end table change when you
		replace it with the IKEA one?
	jdreed: [ gives figures (roughly, the length increases) ]

	jdreed: Actually, to update the allocation, the mirror image
		table to put at the end might be $350, maybe.
	jhawk: I think you should wait while we figure out what we
		want to do with this space and how our needs might be
		better served (do we prefer sturdier tables?)
	ianucci: I'd like to note that the old tables have their legs
		welded to the top, so tables with loose wiggly legs
		have a cracked weld, which is difficult to fix.
	jdreed: The wiggly-legged table is out in the hall.

	ianucci: I question if our existing tables are (a) in good
		condition and (b) sturdy enough, given the
		peeling/chipping formica, etc.
	jdreed: Also note that the IKEA table has a rounded inner
		surface, so it's actually possible to sit inside that
		corner.
	glasgall: And it's possible to join the IKEA tables together
		with metal thingies to make them more stable; we've
		already done this with some of them.

	jdreed: [ formally updates the motion to $350 for the purchse
		of the mirror image of the table by the door to fill
		the space at the other end ]
	[ second and white ballot; objection; vote passes 5-3-? ]
	dove: I think it would be useful to send mail about this. I
		know this is a continuation of a longer project about
		which mail was sent earlier, but it's been a while and
		it might be a good idea...
	jdreed: I don't intend to go to IKEA sooner than 3-4 weeks
		from now.
	dove: I wish we'd planned this out more in advance; I've heard
		complaints from a number of people. Not to slight what
		has been done already, but better communication would
		have been better.
	glasgall: We apologize for the loss of the end table; we
		didn't realize it had been getting so much use, and
		we'll put something like it back in its place.


	ianucci: There is a Great Dark Spot swirling across the SIPB
		floor. It turns out that elbow grease and solvents
		have vaguely worked. It would be nice if we got some
		actual carpet cleaner, but anyone who can spare some
		elbow grease could virtually eradicate the Spot.
	ianucci: Another thing I wanted to mention is that this carpet
		has a number of issues [ points out fold, tear
		]... replacing the carpet isn't really that expensive,
		and it might be Facilities' responsibility to pay for
		it.
	dove: I'm worried about the logistics...
	jhawk: (Last time) we evacuated the entire office, and took
		the opportunity to paint it again.
	dove: Where did you move everything when evacuating the
		office?
	jhawk: ...I don't remember.
	dove: [ notes the fridge ]...
	dove: I am generally in the mindset that this carpet sucks,
		and if we can pull off the logistics...
	ianucci: Can we replace it tile-wise?
	glasgall: Facilities might charge extra for that.
	ianucci: [ will send mail ]

SIPB Projects Report:

	glasgall: XVM is interested in people! Come talk to me.
	
	glasgall: Apparently I'm not the only one interested in a
		Solaris Athena project. Come talk to me.

	achernya: Because EMC continues to suck [ secretary objection
		], the hardware upgrade to Isilon did not happen last
		week. I'm sending mail to nag the Certified Senior
		Project Manager about getting us a Certified Senior
		Box Opener.

	jogama: We still need more teachers for the IAP classes on
		Ruby on Rails and Modern Programming Design. If we
		don't get teachers, those programs just aren't going
		to respond. We mailed people who taught last year, but
		nobody responded. Please respond. Email
		elubin@mit.edu...
	achernya: Planning for Caffeinated 6.828 is ongoing. We're
		trying to figure out what flavor the course will take
		on and should talk to Anne Hunter right away and see
		if we can grant credit.

	glasgall: Oh yeah - XVM has gone another week without a
		cluster incident, which still continues to astonish
		me.

	ianucci: The stapler on the outside of the door frame
		continues to jam perodically [ sad face ]

New Prospective Introductions:
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Other:

	glasgall: I understand that congratulations are in order for
		the SIPB Lincoln Labs CTF team.
	dvorak42: I'd like to clarify that it wasn't solely SIPB
		members.
	dove: Could you explain the event for us?
	dvorak42: Lincoln Labs held a capture-the-flag game where you
		have to attack and defend services. We ran a team with
		dvoark42, tboning, cereselee, kaufmand, ... After very
		little sleep and 48 hours, we got first place.
	dove: Do we get to see the flag?
	dvorak42: It's currently in Random; a permanent home is being
		discussed.

	jdreed: FYI, in late May or early June, the Building 12 will
		close permanently. The number of public Athena
		workstations will drop below 200...We're working on a
		proposal to completely revamp W20-575 to make it look
		like something not from the 80's, with small group
		workspaces, cafe tables, bar-height workstations for
		quick use, possibly a reservable seminar-style space
		for students... Anyone who has any interest, talk to
		me or Victor. This will be discussed at ISTAB this
		Wednesday.
	dove: What are the plans for the space in Building 12?
	jdreed: The building will be demolished.
	jhawk: Will IS&T be getting that space back?
	jdreed: No...Building 12 will be the site of MIT's new
		nanofabrication facility.

Other Other:
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The meeting was adjourned at 19:55:17.

        Minutes taken and submitted by btidor.

        Minutes taken and submitted by btidor.

     