Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 20 October 1980 The meeting was called to order at 19:30 by William M. York. In attendance were Barmar, BIM, DCP, WER, Jay, WMY, Naha, RK, Steve, GCO, ACW, c|, RDM, Soley, JCG, GMP, MG, Jeffery Harris. Late were: J9, Jeffrey Plum, Bill Cattey, JSL, RLL. The minutes of the meeting of 13 October 1980 were read and accepted as corrected. Treasurer's Report: Total spending this month to date $7817.83 of which disk charges account for $3068.58. Chairman's Report: The chairman met with Wes Burner and Jay Roth, the president of the MIT student chapter of the ACM. They talked about the local chapter ACM programming contest, which Wes agreed to fund. There are going to be six problems, one of which you will be allowed to do in Lisp. We offered to do all the administration. Wes also wanted them to talk to EECS. Later the chairman talked to Chris Ryland, and he said that EECS would be willing to sponsor this contest. The ACM runs a regional programming contest centered around the batch FORTRAN philosophy, for which the local contest is a qualifier. The chairman will talk to Jean Bonney tomorrow about the Spinwriter. The chairman got a letter from Robert Holsizer, the chairman of the Committee on the Computing Environment at MIT. John Gonzalez was redeclared active. Office Report: There was a Pepsi delivery that we did not order. Whose is it? The office has a new polyhedral frobnitz. Remember to return the cart to Dispatch when you borrow it. The office collection of Center Memos was mentioned so that people will know they exist. ACW and Steve LeBlanc will rearrange the office manuals. Computer Services: BIM believes that the Spinwriter can win better if we disassociate the printer and daemon-control functions. The daemon-control function could live in an associated terminal, and we wouldn't have to type on the Spinwriter. We got a lifetime supply of AML request forms. The default Student acl is "read" to *.*. We should tell users about this each time we take an application, and give them the option of privacy. Of course, the SIPB needs to retain access. It was moved to change new_user to ask whether the user wants null access or not. The motion passed; the chairman will implement the change. The UROP guide mentions the SIPB twice, once nicely, once badly. Barmar will talk to them about the disturbing wording of the latter, where it says that UROP frowns on computation requests. GMP knows what the new rates will look like but refuses to say. JSL came in at this point and frowned at the polyhedral frobnitz. Telecommunications Report: Last Tuesday we got a phone call from Jeff Kletsky, vice president of Baker House, saying that they wanted their terminal removed because they are remodeling the space. When we asked if we could get a key when we got there, Kletsky said, "Uh, they've sort of removed the door." The chairman and Barmar went to Baker and found the terminal under a pile of rubble sans dataset. "It was stolen," said Arrowroot, catching the drift. We will probably exchange the ex-Baker terminal with the Student Center DecWriter, which will be mothballed. Bexley will probably want a terminal next term. We may decide to have a premature, limited Smoke Filled Room meeting to deal with interim terminal distribution problems. The current hardware proposal depends on getting space close enough to Multics that extra short-haul modems will not be necessary. We will leave it the way it is, getting the extra money by buying fewer termnals if necessary: someone will talk to CPR about space at EECS. Publications Report: BIM is interested in revamping the NETS. He will hold a discussion about this in the near future. Also we will have a handout that explains how to do mailing labels. IAP Report: Jay has not yet gotten hold of Dorothy Corbett, but will keep trying to find out how the Center's IAP courses will work. The philosophy of the programming contest was discussed. We will leave the status quo the way it is, in the lap of the contest committee. User Interrupt: Edmund P. Lee wants $200 to finish doing his lab reports for 8.13. He has already had $200. Given. More IAP Report: Lyman Hazelton will be giving courses on Multics this winter, and this may make our Multics course unnecessary. We will contact him. Elections: Gary Oberbrunner wants to become a member of the SIPB because he wants to be as cool as us. Steve LeBlanc wants to be a member of the SIPB just because. Both were elected unanimously. Other: JSL went by LOTS at Stanford and got a LOTS application. It was announced at HLSUA that field support has been unbundled, that is, it now costs extra and is not included in the price of a Multics. S.-P. Yong was able to buy manuals on the Student project. The Publications office has lost again. The chairman will talk to Carolyn Lang. Applications: Chi_Phi (Fraternity, Brewster Kahle) got $100 by EC vote for automating the functions of a house steward. Total appropriations: $2490 without Coop Autoed: $2190, all Student. EC: $100, all Student. To Meeting: $200, all Student. Other Other: Daniel J. Halbert brought in Daniel C. Halbert's mail. Barmar and RK are getting cars. Hofstadter visited the area cube-hackers. User Interrupt: Jeannine Mosely wants $50 to edit her papers for her area exam, part of the PhD. program in course VI. Given. Other Other Other: The pastry expedition is going to New York on Sunday morning at 7:30 a.m. Penny, Dave Moon, and Alan Bawden have been painting each other. The meeting was adjourned at 22:16. Minutes taken and submitted by Allan C. Wechsler ;; Local Modes: ;; Mode:TEXT ;; LISP ) Hack:1 ;; Auto Fill Mode: ;; Fill Column:70 ;; Fill Prefix: ;; END: