Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 16 November 1981 The meeting was called to order at 19:31 by David C. Plummer. In attendance were barmar, GMP, JSL, LRH, RDM, JIS, RK, HGA, Alan, DCP, JR, HDT, Lai, Naha. Late were: MG, DPC, CAH The minutes of the meeting of 9 November 1981 were read and accepted as corrected. MG, DPC came in during this. *** User Interrupt *** Edmund P. Lee - $200 - using Macsyma for homework. Has had $100 so far this year. Will be crunching quantum theory. This should finish this term and go a little into next term. Given. *** End User Interrupt *** Treasurer's Report: MTD Multics: 5386.04 ($920 SIPB/SIPBADMIN) ($1072 storage) YTD without November on the 370 and JCF: 26245.86 The end of the month is the 25th, so we will probably spend ~$9500 this month compared to $11,600 last November. Multics allocated & not spent: $24,000 The spinwriter kickback for last week was the highest of the year ($61.39). The October phone bill is here. Some calls are still un-accounted for. Ask DMK if he made calls from x4841 - Jay called there and it is the Physics undergraduate reading room. Bills will be posted tomorrow. Jay called telecommunications to complain about being charged for the phone in Dupont. They will transfer/credit/something and promise not to do it again. SIPB members who owe money should pay up, the balance is getting high. Jay went to a greasy lunch with Dean McBay on Friday with other representatives of financially well-to-do organizations (he was representing LSC). The people from the Dean's office were complaining that activities never tell anyone what they are doing. Jay put in some good words for us and promised Deans McBay and Holden a copy of the Annual Report. Chairman's Report: The chairman went to Fla. and saw the shuttle take off. He is now in Livermore, visiting and thinking of taking a job there, and Shawn may transfer to Berkeley. Office Report: The Sept. Heavy Metal came in. HGA tried to hook RK's turntable to the stereo receiver, but it didn't work, so he brought in his amplifier and hooked them into it. If we are going to keep records here, HGA thinks we should get a Disk Washer. Talk to HGA if you are interested in chipping in. The SpinWriter daemon now asks you for the station password, and doesn't print it out, thanks to GMP. Please put the weekly absout in RK's drawer. When you read "WER" in the minutes, pronounce it like "were", not "double-you-ee-are" (or Wendy) WER called Bartlett about the SpinWriter not getting serviced. They had no record of the service call. When you call a terminal in, get the name of the repairman who is supposed to be coming. Someone will be coming tomorrow morning. Computer Services: After discussion among RK, RAR, and JIS, the Center will not let SIPB_print have a login password. JIS remarked that the fact that we have such privileged accounts, SIPB_registrar and SIPB_print, is a favor from the Center, and that they do not think that they can afford to have such privileged accounts floating around. RK wants to be able to login as SIPB_print on the SIPB project to be able to cancel bogus messages. Perhaps we will write an x command to do this. CAH came in during this. People interested in fixing ECS should meet with RK after the meeting. Telecommunications Report: We need to buy a terminal for Next House. They would like a video terminal, so we should buy Z-19's, which we decided are the video terminals that we would buy. CAH moved to authorize the purchase of two Z-19's. RLL mentioned that the networking group is planning on getting terminals, so perhaps we should wait before buying. We will be getting as much a discount as we can, so they will cost $605 apiece. Passes. Two power cables were stolen from two of the Telerays. RLL borrowed some from EECS, and Jay should be ordering new ones. Someone at Burton wants to be able to use the tie-line from their terminal, so she can use the Lincoln Labs computer. She would like us to upgrade from class E to class F, which is a $3/mo difference. She offered to put up the money, but that was thinking it was .50/mo difference (however, she was willing to pay when someone previously told her it was $4/mo). We voted on it, and it passed. Burton is being charged $30 (prorated from $50 because it was broken much of the term) for last spring. WER needs to know what the costs will be for running all the phone lines for the Big Plan. She nevers sees RLL. We need to discuss buying terminals for the Big Plan. We originally decided to buy lots of Z-19's. The Next House dataset should be put in within a few days. Helen is the person at Telecommunications with whom we deal. Her extension is 3-3651. She was supposed to call us on Friday to say when the MacGregor dataset would be installed, and MacGregor should be notified. WER sent new terminal contracts and reminder letters to the living groups who never sent them for Spring/Fall 1981. Bob Davine, who advises Chuck Libby as to what should be done, wants to know why we are renting Bell 212A's for $560/year instead of buying a Vadic for $725, and why we are renting 113A'a for $130/year rather than buying a 300 baud modem for $200-$300. WER will let him know tomorrow. Someone should let her know, or call Bob Davine himself. Publications Report: Comment on the revised policy statements on the board. Are we allowed to set up Coop accounts that are for monetary gain? RLL moved that we not authorize Coop accounts for known profit-making projects. The Center normally has to send people through E19 before letting profit-making organizations purchase time. Passes. None of the current Coop users fall into this category, so there is no current problem. NUMS are ready. Someone should pick them up tomorrow. Annual-Report Report: RK and WMY decided not to publish the Annual Report last week. A final copy will be on the board tonight. There is an application on the board of a user who made a weird plot that we would like permission to use on the cover. Call Keavney and ask him if we may. IAP Report: The IAP funding committee turned our request for a microphone for the LISP Course. The IAP funding coordinator will lend us a portable speaker system. Barmar corrected our IAP guide entries. The Final Guide deadline is Wednesday. The programming contest will be a variant on a problem suggested by Sussman. It has to do with each team writing all the modules of a program, and then the modules get mixed together and the modules that are most cooperative win. Other: RK bought new manuals on Friday, and noticed that the list of projects that are not allowed to buy manuals does not include all the new Student* projects. LRH noticed a security breach at Harvard Trust: He got a new card and should have gotten a new password. When he called back, the woman just told him his password over the phone, and said that they do it all the time. He contacted a vice-president, and hopefully it will stop. He is going to try again in a month or two. According to Mass. laws on electronic fund withdrawals, after sixty days the bank is no longer responsible for proving that you had made a transaction at a time that shows on the statement; BayBanks is video-taping all machine transactions, so they can verify it, but they will only be keeping the tapes for 60 days. CISL is losing Eric Bush to First Nat'l Bank of Boston. What will happen to Version 3 PL/I is in the air. There are now many openings in Honeywell Multics. Applications: Burnett, Dan - $100 - for preparing typesetting for a 30-pages of BSU newsletter. Why is this not under under BSU's name? Deferred. Sinclair, Ken - $50 - for text editing for 21.405, approx 20 pages in December. Given. Bartlett, Clifford K. - $50 - for text editing. He spent his first $75 on one paper, because he spent alot of money learning the system, and learning what the bad shifts are. Given. Ikeda, Makato - $50 - for finishing text editing for 3.081. He underestimated how many pages he would have to write (150). He has had $100 so far, and spent some money learning the system. Given. Lloyd, Dan E. - Warning - he had what looked like a psychology thesis in his dir. When contacted, he said that he is writing a research paper, but telling the journals that it is a thesis. If it ever becomes a real thesis, he will move to Coop. Yong, S. - the 370 person who LRH thought was being rude. She can't come to a meeting, and will try to find funding elsewhere. She doesn't understand why she upset Bobbie (female in User Accounts). Total appropriations: $1645 without Coop Autoed: Student: $1015 JCF: $100 370: $0 To Meeting: $450, EC: $50, all Student. Coop: $30 Other Other: It looks like Coolidge is once again giving out NOW accounts with no minimum balance. Concourse was up for over six days in a row this week. There will be a Wu-Tang martial arts exhibition this Saturday. The meeting was adjourned at 21:33. Minutes taken and submitted by Barry Margolin.