Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 11 May 1981 The meeting was called to order at 19:30 by David C. Plummer In attendance were GMP, Barmar, RK, DMK, RLL, DCP, c/, JIS Late were: WER, naha, RDM, KYM, WMY, SEL, HGA, PAE, JSL, CAH, Jay, LSP The minutes of the meeting of 4 May were read and accepted as corrected. Treasurer's Report: We have spent $3,638.79 so far this month. Jay got signature cards, and deposited checks into the checking account. WMY and SEL came in during this report, and WMY took over. We spent $10,041.65 during April, including 370. Year to end of April was $102,095.17 *** User Interrupt *** Seidewitz, Edwin - wants $10 to finish his paper. Given *** Resume meeting *** Chairman's Report: The new rates were announced. There will be an open forum meeting this Friday. There will be a CCE meeting this Friday and Monday. Wes has offered us $110K computer time and $20K for hardware. The terminal situation is not as bad as it used to be, due to the IPC terminal room being open so much. The hardware proposal was read, since the discussion was leaning towards how Wes' proposal would affect it. The ADB may want to match Wes' hardware proposal, so we might want to ask for only $15K hardware and $115K computer time. There are going to be more VT100's in the IPC Pool room. RLL is trying to talk Leo into keeping them open 24hours/day 7days/week. JSL thinks that we could live without many new terminals for a year and get the center to buy a graphics printer. Jay came in at this point. LSP came in. Office Report: ALAN was away, so the coolie list stopped being produced. He will resume. WER remarked that there haven't been many things in the coolie box. She also cleaned up gross plates that people left around. The SpinWriter was fixed (hardware, not software). Jay needs a drawer. RMPII and DGHP have a drawer, maybe we should talk them out of it. RLL will give Jay his drawer, and RLL will then get himself one. The membership address list disappears too much. WMY admits guilt for this week. He is developing new membership list software. WMY says Alan is trying to come up with a complex scheme for assigning coolie of the days. The coolie-of-the-day may appear on the daily every day. JSL says there is a moby scheduling program used for scheduling OLC's that we might want to use for this. Minutes should be put in the minutes notebook when they come off the printer. If a member dprints something for someone, it should be filed under the other person's name. The EECS user-id SE.FOOBAR should be filed under F. Do not cancel output unless REALLY necessary. If you do, LOG IT. Instead of cancelling, just defer it, and LOG IT. Every few minutes, the printer makes the mating call of the wild SpinDumper. This is due to the program checking the status of the spinwriter. The instructions on running the Daemon has been updated. Usually, the SpinWriter should not get too wedged. If it gets really wedged, find someone with sac access to fix it. A concensus was taken to see if people would prefer even-odd paging support. People seem to prefer even-odd to blank-page suppression. The broken chair came back this week. CDT's Ambassador terminal is in the office. It will go to him tomorrow. Computer Services: DCP noted the lossage in the communication between EE and the printer. Tabs are the wrong size, and the page starts on the wrong line. CAH thinks the solution is to have a program on the source somputer to convert files to the format the daemon software expects. JIS says he will write a program tonight to do this. RMS came in to pay his bill. DCP thinks that runing the printer as a daemon is a loss, due to the many bugs we have encountered. Perhaps a gate could be set up so that *.SIPBADMIN could log in the printer daemon. The five new projects were registered. The aliases can't just be the lowercase of the projectnames, due to a limitation of 8 characters in aliases. We will go to aliases of "stad", "steh", "stim", "stns", and "sttz". Since these are not obvious, people for whom the Student** project is not their default should be told about them. Someone should go to the Users Forum Meeting on Friday. We are not using Version 2 exec_com. Technique denies having taken our drop poster, and the Lobby 7 Coordinator doesn't know where it is. It looks like th IPC won't be able to get the Grinnell, because maintaining the hardware would be impossible. There were 104 users at one point today. The Initializer will be spiffed up to be able to go faster. Telecommunications Report: Two datasets were removed today from the Student Center. There is a Vadic modem in RLL's home that should go to the Student Center. All the terminals in the Student Center seem to be working; don't tell the Tech. Publications Report: WER thinks she has finished the policy statement. She spoke to Dennis Capps about the runoff wallchart. Mark hacksawed the lock on the Senior House manual rack, and it was updated. The new rates should go into the new NUMS (actually the document that replaces it). WMY will create >udd>SIPB>Publications for just publications. There will also be a mailbox for publications ideas. Continuum is coming to Multics. There appears to be incompatibilities between the new style of manual racks and the old ones. We will figure it out and get new ones. R/O Report: Our request for space in the midway has been received by the R/O comittee. Jay is trying to get the midways in the new Athletic Center, since DuPont may not be available. Other: CAH sent the GA the list of new officers and reported to them that their copy of our Constitution is up to date. RLL went to Chicago for the NCC and saw many ex-SIPB members. He saw the various graphics options for VT100's. Some manuals will be coming. Deborah Estrin doesn't need more money anymore, as she has gotten research money. JPT showed some members how to align the color on the IBM 3279 terminals, which he wrote the software support for. Applications: Warning! Kane, John Bernard - used his account for thesis. Also used Bertinelli's account. He has payed for the time he had used and will pay us for whatever he uses. He will come to the next meeting. Warning! Bertinelli, Francesco - Let Kane use his account for his thesis. He called the office and was sufficiently sorry. He will be been turned back on. Yap, Daniel - $20 to finish his large paper. Given. Douglas, Scott - $10 to EC to finish a paper. Given. Tindell, James - $15 to EC to finish a paper. Given. Both totals should be noted on Coop applications, the total he has given us and his adjusted total after disk charges (shown in the pmf) Total appropriations: without Coop Autoed: $0 Student: $0 370: $0 To Meeting: $20, to EC: $25, all Student. Coop: $435 Other Other: ACW called and wants to know how many people have been suffering from sore throats lately. 2. "Using lines of code as a measure of programmer productivity is like using number of words spoken as a measure of marketing productivity." -- RK's quote of the week. "Clash of the Titans" at LSC is a WORLD PREMIERE! KYM's brother took KYM and WMY out to dinner because they helped him with a paper. naha bought c/ flowers for Mother's Day. RK and Barmar made an interesting $100 for consulting and tutoring. The meeting was adjourned at 21:45 Minutes taken and submitted by Barry Margolin