               Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 20 October 1980

	The meeting was called to order at 19:30 by William M. York.
		
	In attendance were Barmar, BIM, DCP, WER, Jay, WMY, Naha, RK,
		Steve, GCO, ACW, c|, RDM, Soley, JCG, GMP, MG, Jeffery
		Harris. 
			
	Late were: J9, Jeffrey Plum, Bill Cattey, JSL, RLL.

		The minutes of the meeting of 13 October 1980 were
		read and accepted as corrected.

	Treasurer's Report:

		Total spending this month to date $7817.83 of which
		disk charges account for $3068.58.

	Chairman's Report:

		The chairman met with Wes Burner and Jay Roth, the
		president of the MIT student chapter of the ACM.  They
		talked about the local chapter ACM programming
		contest, which Wes agreed to fund.  There are going to
		be six problems, one of which you will be allowed to
		do in Lisp.  We offered to do all the administration.
		Wes also wanted them to talk to EECS.

		Later the chairman talked to Chris Ryland, and he said
		that EECS would be willing to sponsor this contest.

		The ACM runs a regional programming contest centered
		around the batch FORTRAN philosophy, for which the
		local contest is a qualifier.

		The chairman will talk to Jean Bonney tomorrow about
		the Spinwriter.

		The chairman got a letter from Robert Holsizer, the
		chairman of the Committee on the Computing Environment
		at MIT.

		John Gonzalez was redeclared active.

	Office Report:

		There was a Pepsi delivery that we did not order.
		Whose is it?

		The office has a new polyhedral frobnitz.

		Remember to return the cart to Dispatch when you
		borrow it.

		The office collection of Center Memos was mentioned so
		that people will know they exist.

		ACW and Steve LeBlanc will rearrange the office manuals.

	Computer Services:

		BIM believes that the Spinwriter can win better if we
		disassociate the printer and daemon-control functions.
		The daemon-control function could live in an
		associated terminal, and we wouldn't have to type on
		the Spinwriter.

		We got a lifetime supply of AML request forms.

		The default Student acl is "read" to *.*.  We should
		tell users about this each time we take an
		application, and give them the option of privacy.  Of
		course, the SIPB needs to retain access.

		It was moved to change new_user to ask whether the
		user wants null access or not.  The motion passed; the
		chairman will implement the change.

		The UROP guide mentions the SIPB twice, once nicely,
		once badly.  Barmar will talk to them about the
		disturbing wording of the latter, where it says that
		UROP frowns on computation requests.

		GMP knows what the new rates will look like but
		refuses to say.

		JSL came in at this point and frowned at the
		polyhedral frobnitz.

	Telecommunications Report:

		Last Tuesday we got a phone call from Jeff Kletsky,
		vice president of Baker House, saying that they wanted
		their terminal removed because they are remodeling the
		space.  When we asked if we could get a key when we
		got there, Kletsky said, "Uh, they've sort of removed
		the door."  The chairman and Barmar went to Baker and
		found the terminal under a pile of rubble sans
		dataset.  "It was stolen," said Arrowroot, catching
		the drift.

		We will probably exchange the ex-Baker terminal with
		the Student Center DecWriter, which will be mothballed.

		Bexley will probably want a terminal next term.

		We may decide to have a premature, limited Smoke
		Filled Room meeting to deal with interim terminal
		distribution problems.

		The current hardware proposal depends on getting space
		close enough to Multics that extra short-haul modems
		will not be necessary.  We will leave it the way it
		is, getting the extra money by buying fewer termnals
		if necessary: someone will talk to CPR about space at
		EECS.

	Publications Report:

		BIM is interested in revamping the NETS.  He will hold
		a discussion about this in the near future.

		Also we will have a handout that explains how to do
		mailing labels.

	IAP Report:

		Jay has not yet gotten hold of Dorothy Corbett, but
		will keep trying to find out how the Center's IAP
		courses will work.

		The philosophy of the programming contest was
		discussed.  We will leave the status quo the way it
		is, in the lap of the contest committee.

	User Interrupt:

		Edmund P. Lee wants $200 to finish doing his lab
		reports for 8.13.  He has already had $200.  Given.

	More IAP Report:

		Lyman Hazelton will be giving courses on Multics this
		winter, and this may make our Multics course
		unnecessary.  We will contact him.

	Elections:

		Gary Oberbrunner wants to become a member of the SIPB
		because he wants to be as cool as us.

		Steve LeBlanc wants to be a member of the SIPB just
		because.

		Both were elected unanimously.

	Other:

		JSL went by LOTS at Stanford and got a LOTS
		application.

		It was announced at HLSUA that field support has been
		unbundled, that is, it now costs extra and is not
		included in the price of a Multics.

		S.-P. Yong was able to buy manuals on the Student
		project.  The Publications office has lost again.  The
		chairman will talk to Carolyn Lang.

	Applications:

		Chi_Phi (Fraternity, Brewster Kahle) got $100 by EC
		vote for automating the functions of a house steward.

		Total appropriations: $2490 without Coop
		  Autoed: $2190, all Student.
		  EC: $100, all Student.
		  To Meeting: $200, all Student.

	Other Other:

		Daniel J. Halbert brought in Daniel C. Halbert's mail.

		Barmar and RK are getting cars.

		Hofstadter visited the area cube-hackers.

	User Interrupt:

		Jeannine Mosely wants $50 to edit her papers for her
		area exam, part of the PhD. program in course VI.
		Given.

	Other Other Other:

		The pastry expedition is going to New York on Sunday
		morning at 7:30 a.m.

		Penny, Dave Moon, and Alan Bawden have been painting
		each other.

	The meeting was adjourned at 22:16. 
 
 
		     Minutes taken and submitted by Allan C. Wechsler
 
 

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