The meeting was called to order at 19:30 by yonah. In attendance were Voting members: jered, hartmans, kretch, elliot, yonah, daveg, foley, sit, fastcart, fubob, tlai, emhavens, amu, danw, rjbarbal | nathanw, svalente, mkgray, annmarie, beaners, katyking, djib Associate members: ghudson, eichin, jtkohl, srz, mhpower, jweiss, marc, shabby Non-voting members: Prospectives: klmitch,jfmurphy, jlwfnord Guests: Treasurer's Report: kretch: Hi Emily; let's get Emily in the minutes. Chairman's Report: hartmans: The EC approved the amendment regarding duty of officers. The EC also came to a concensus that Richard's voting procedure should be used for this election. The EC voted that marthag should remain a member of the EC until the conclusion of her term of office. [push to klmitch election] danw: What do you do for SIPB? klmitch: I mostly helped user questions. ghudson: Someone asks a question you don't know the answer to; where do you look? klmitch: OLC Stock Answers, OLC, instance help, sipb mailing list fastcart: Who are you? What do you want? [whack!] klmitch: I am who I am. I want to live. hartmans: Haven't you been doing IRC work? klmitch: I became a co-admin of irc.mit.edu during my freshman year. I've done everything that has been done since then. I upgraded the server; eventually the server was thrown off the network because of kernel problems (it made things too unstable). I upgraded it to a different server and connected it to a different network. rjbarbal: Are there any plans to put irc back on the main network? klmitch: I don't want to do that while rtfm is still on the machine. I need more CPU and more file descriptors. emhavens: What was the last user question, when? klmitch: A user asked a Perl question; I gave him some suggestions. A few minutes ago. svalente: name a former chair and something that's hung from the ceiling. klmitch: mkgray used to be a chairman and a slinky hung from the ceiling. sit: Point to three machines with eyes closed. [He's apparently one version behind on office re-arrangement.] jered: What would you like to do as a SIPB member? klmitch: I would like to do backups, help users; might do web stuff. mkgray: Name some services and where they run. klmitch: [names appropriate services] svalente: How do you double space in EZ? klmitch: Points to stock answer and mostly gets it right. foley: Ask someone a SIPB-related question. klmitch: Joe, what were Kerberos's three heads. Authentication, authorization and accounting. mkgray: What is the significance of the graphic above the clock? klmitch: Multics. That appears to be a ring structure. sit: how much time do you spend in the office? klmitch: I don't spend much time in the office. I don't have as many of those time constraints this term, however, so I may spend more time here. jweiss: Name one item in the office that you think the SIPB should get rid of that the SIPB hasn't decided to get rid of. klmitch: The old Mac hardware. mkgray: I move that srz ask the question. srz: Why do you want to be a SIPB member? klmitch: The SIPB is here for helping people; I would like to have my name associated with an organization that helps people. 17-3-2 passes [push to chairman elections] mhpower: Move to nominate kretch for chair [second accept] kretch: Move to nominate Sam [second accept] ghudson: Move to nominate cat who has pre-accepted noting that she may miss one meeting per months because of LSC. [second ] jweiss: Move to nominate nygren [secnd accept] marc: Move to nominate nathanw [second accept] mkgray: Move to nominate sit [accept second] danw: Why might you not make a good chair? hartmans: I would have to have someone help call on people at meetings. sit: I'm taking 6.170 this term and have a UROP nathanw: I'm not a stickler for parliamentary procedure. nygren: I am a grad student; I may graduate at the end of the term. mkgray: Who has been an officer here or in other activities? kretch, hartmans and cat here; cat for LSC [round 1 results] hartmans: 7 kretch: 7 nygren: 4 nathanw: 3 cat: 1 sit: 0 [round 2 results] kretch: 7 hartmans: 5 nygren: 5 nathanw: 3 cat: 2 [round 3 results] sam: 8 kretch: 7 nygren: 6 [round 4 results] kretch: 11 hartmans: 10 abstain: 1 [round 5 results] kretch: 18 elected abstain: 5 [vice chair description read] ghudson: I nominate cat [second pre-accepted] kretch: I nominate Sam [second accept] jered: I nominate nathanw [second accept] mhpower: I nominate jered [second accept] mkgray: I nominate svalente [second accept] elliot: I nominate nygren [second accept] mkgray: Are you not planning on being a student. [both are going to be students.] [round 1 results] hartmans: 8 nygren: 7 svalente: 3 nathanw: 3 cat: 1 jered: 1 [round 2 results] hartmans: 9 nygren: 8 svalente: 3 nathanw: 3 [round 3 results] hartmans: 11 nygren: 11 abstain: 1 yonah: By the current procedures, the election for vice chair and all additional elections are canceled. I want to hold an EC meeting to schedule an election for next week. [push to EC] danw: I move to try again and redo the vice-chair election. [second] rjbarbal: Explains why dropping nygren is bad. Basically, people might have wanted to vote for him and now may want to get another candidate. [6-0-0] passes [pop to vice chair] jweiss: I nominate hartmans [second accept] mkgray: I nominate fubob [second accept] elliot: I nominate nygren [second accept] [take 2 round 1 results] hartmans: 9 fubob: 8 nygren: 6 [take 2 round 2] fubob: 13 elected hartmans: 10 [treasurer] mkgray: I nominate jered [second accept] elliot: I nominate sit [second accept] fastcart: I nominate nygren [second decline] beaners: I nominate nathanw [second decline] nygren: I nominate cat [declines] fastcart: I nominate hartmans [declines] rjbarbal: I nominate beaners [second accept] mkgray: Who has treasurer-like experience. [They've filled out reqs, but not much else] [round 1 results] invalid: 1 sit: 9 beaners: 8 jered: 5 [round 2 results] Annmarie left so there is one less ballot. sit: 14 elected beaners: 8 [push to secretary] jweiss: I nominate hartmans [second accept] daveg: I nominate jered [second accept] nygren: I nominate nathanw [second accept] mhpower: I nominate rjbarbal [second accept] elliot: I nominate beaners [second accept] rjbarbal: I can't attend any of the meetings because of concert choir. ghudson: Remember those files that the secretary should clean out. [round 1] hartmans: 9 nathanw: 5 beaners: 5 jered: 3 rjbarbal: 0 Jered and rjbarbal drop. No objection to jered. [round 2] hartmans: 13 elected beaners: 6 nathanw: 3 [EC at large] amu: 5 annmarie: 1 beaners: 9 bert: 1 cat: 8 daveg: 2 elliot: 4 emhavens: 4 foley: 1 gutnik: 1 jered: 5 katyking: 2 mkgray: 8 nathanw: 14 nygern: 14 rjbarbal: 7 svalente: 3 yoav: 1 yonah: 15 invalid: 5 total 110 yonah, nathanw, nygren and beaners elected We have a runoff between mkgray and cat. mkgray: 12 cat: 9 mkgray is elected. [push to EC] nygren: Move to approve election. [second 6-0-0] [pop to EC] ghudson: Elections took a while. kretch: I intend to get some constitution election things done soon. It will not happen next week. Office Report: sit: I move to allocate up to $200 for the Bat book and the Bind book. [second white ballot] marc: I move to spend up to $30 for white board erasers and markers. [second white ballot] svalente: I move to allocate up to $100 to buy CLR. [second] beaners: Having copies of current texts is useful. elliot: Buying this book is asking for it to get stolen. 15-3-2+||sgw nygren: A while ago I got money to buy the Java in a Nutshell book. If you think I should wait for Java 1.1 tell me. kretch: I move to allocate up to $24.95 for a heavy-duty stapler. [second white-ballot] kretch: I move to allocate up to $60 for the Make book. [second white-ballot] danw: There isn't quite a 1:1 mapping between the office and a pit. nygren: I move to allocate up to $60 for Linux in a Nutshell and Sysv in a Nutshell. [second 8-3-11] passes mhpower: I was thinking we should probably make it a SIPB policy that SIPB members should not as individuals request host aliases. MIT Computing Report: Someone asks if SIPB should take a position on the fish bowl issue. Several people point out our role as a student computer advocate. [Prompted by discussion in other.] mkgray: I move that I draft a letter by tomorrow and that subject to EC approval, we send it. hartmans: Second, move to vote on it in a special meeting Tuesday instead of an EC meeting. [12-4-6] hartmans ammendment passes Now we vote on mkgray's motion as amended. Meeting will be 19:30 in the SIPB office. Letter to be drafted by 15:00. [24-0-2] passes Computer Services: ghudson: I got the stacking kits for the disks for the new AFS server. I think we may be having problems with the SCSI controller on that machine. We tried upgrading Beacon to INN 1.5.1; so far we are not impressed. mkgray: We (webmasters) had a meeting; we will be changing things to make thiings easier to find, etc. SIPB Backup Report: sit: We will be storing the database for backups in AFS foley: everything besides AFS happened late last week. Publications Report: kretch: I've been lame about iLatex. will deal. R/O Report: () IAP Report: () CokeComm Report: jered: There are a bunch of empty flats on the floor. Add an empty flat when the top flat is full. fubob: No Dr. Pepper. Other: fastcart: Martha's AUP is done. jered: Graphic Arts respects international copyright law now; course readers are much more expensive. danw: The student services people are rumored to be reconsidering the original motivations that caused them to want to get rid of the fish bowl. [This motivated the discussion in MIT computing.] klmitch: I'm from Oklahoma and Texas; this is not comfortable. [Someone previously said the hot office was OK] fastcart: Redhat 4.1 released last weekend. Other Other: fastcart: There was a B5 showing at 22:30. hartmans: Bertucci's is charging for bread lumps. jweiss: I expect that there will be an auction after next week's meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 22:24. Minutes taken and submitted by hartmans.