Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 09/8/97


The meeting was called to order at 19:30 by kretch.

In attendance were 
	Voting members: nygren nathanw amu elliot djib yonah fubob
		kretch | pipa svalente
	Associate members: ghudson marc mhpower shabby tlyu srz
		jweiss kcr mwhitson leira | jhawk eichin
	Non-voting members: 
	Prospectives: jewell jfmurphy Martin Peck xela | mdh yana99 jdaniel
	Guests: 

Treasurer's Report:

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Chairman's Report:

	kretch: We have an election for jdaniel next week and for
		jfmurphy the week after that.

	yonah: When is the secretary election?
	kretch: We need an EC vote to schedule the election, I was
		going to check to make sure how to do it correctly
		first.
	Push to EC meeting
		kretch: Move to hold a secretary election next week.
		(Seconded; passes 5-0-0)
	Pop to general meeting
	kretch: So we'll have a secretary election next week along
		with jdaniel's election.

Office Report:

	ghudson: I move to increase the allocation of $50 for the
		Bloom County books to $100.
	(Seconded; white-balloted.)

	jweiss: I will deal with the pile of stuff sometime soon.

	ghudson: Someone could take down oliver and put another
		machine up there.

	ghudson: I move that we allocate up to $3500 for a new toy to
		replace limekiller.  A new modern PC.
	mhpower: I think that this is a good idea to eventually do.
		We've been discussing getting a PC to replace one of
		the server machines; having an identical machine in
		the office as a hot spare might be a good idea.  The
		spot where the new machine would go would be
		convenient for that.  So we might want to discuss that
		first (on the mailing list) and table this motion.
	nygren: There's a range of what we can get.
	ghudson: It's probably appropriate to discuss a ceiling but
		not details.
	nygren: I would lean towards getting a somewhat more expensive
		machine.
	mhpower: Since there haven't been people jumping in, I move to
		table this discussion until the server issue is dealt
		with.  Up to two weeks.
	ghudson: Matt's idea is probably valid; I withdraw my motion.

Office cleaning report:

	kretch: Office cleaning happened this week.

MIT Computing Report:

	mhpower: Fingering at mit.edu sometimes gives listings for people
		who don't have a traditional MIT afiliation; I think
		this is still under development.  There is no truth to
		the rumor that if you finger mycroft you will get a
		reponse that contains the line "Title: whatever".

Computer Services:

	xela: The SIPB-Athena slide ran; I'm told it was
		well-received.  If we ever want to do it again, it
		might be good to have something the audience would
		laugh at.  I'd like to request permission from Linux
		Journal to use a cartoon they have ("It said to
		install under Windows 3.1 or better, so I put it on my
		Linux box.").
	mhpower: At the 4:00pm showing on Sunday it was shown early
		enough that I'm not sure people were looking at the
		screen.
	jhawk: It doesn't seem to me that it's useful to run a slide
		for more than one weekend.

SIPB Backup Report:

	kretch: The exabyte hasn't been dealt with yet, my fault.

Publications Report:

	kretch: We're out of iLaTeX and Linux-Athena.  Anyone know
		about Linux-Athena?
	amu: I don't know.
	kretch: Then we should print up some old ones.

	jewell: I sent mail to sendpubs about cluster cards.  They
		said we should pick them up.
	jdaniel: I think Heather [Harrison] made them appear.

	kretch: sepherke was interested in writing a document on
		machine security.
	mhpower: I thought that Dan was working on that for IS.

R/O Report:

	jewell: SIPB computer tours happened.  We had about 50 people
		and seemed to be relatively successful.
	kretch: Thanks to Darrin.  [Applause.]

IAP Report:

	kretch: The deadline for the IAP Preview is within a couple of
		weeks.  If you want stuff in it, send email to
		devil@mit.edu or hand in a description at 7-103 or
		something.

	mhpower: I'm thinking of holding an IAP activity on the
		subject of qmail internals.  People who think that
		this is a silly idea should let me know.
	jhawk: I think it's a bad idea but I might be willing to
		assist in a session on why Qmail is bad for you and
		your network.

CokeComm Report:

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Other:

	shabby: Nynex continues to suck in getting us [Grey 17] any
		sort of net connection.
	nathanw: Nynex sucks less for ILGs but netops sucks more.
	elliot: Actually Cisco sucks.

	marc: Diffie-Hellman died over the weekend.  [Much cheering]
		(The patent expired.)

	srz: Matt Braun switched some class SIPB accounts to SIPBMEM
		or SIPBGST as appropriate.

Other Other:

	jhawk: I still have $2s.

	jweiss: Since we seem to be doing Nynex sucks report: Nynex
		sucks with respect to keeping existing phone lines
		working.

	nathanw: My birthday is tomorrow.

	shabby: I believe Jamie Morris's birthday is Friday.

	jweiss: There will be post-meeting ultimate.


The meeting was adjourned at 19:50ish.


	Minutes taken and submitted by ghudson.