Minutes of the SIPB Meeting of 12/1/97


The meeting was called to order at 19:30 by kretch.

In attendance were 
	Voting members: yonah kretch katyking jewell jered amsmith amu
		svalente | jfmurphy
	Associate members: danw ghudson jhawk kcr mhpower eichin tlyu
		yandros srz rls klmitch
	Non-voting members: 
	Prospectives: ocschwar xela
	Guests: brettv

Treasurer's Report:

Chairman's Report:

	danw: The chairman should get the minutes out sooner.

Office Report:

	yonah: kretch is still a dork.

	jewell: Has anyone seen the second edition Stroustrup C++
		book?

	jewell: The third edition of that book is out.  mycroft also
		proposed that we buy _The Annoted C Reference Manual_.
		I move to allocate up to $80 to buy both.
	eichin: The annotated reference manual is cheaper than the
		standard, but the commentary has negative value.
	jewell: I amend the motion to include just the Stroustrup
		book, and lower the amount to $50.
	[White ballot.]
	xela volunteers.

	svalente: We got some memory for the Macintosh.  People should
		install it.

Office Cleaning Report:

	The office is marginal.  We don't think it got cleaned much.

MIT Computing Report:

	danw: One user returned from Thanksgiving break to find that
		her account had been broken into over Thanksgiving and
		used to launch some network attack, and then all her
		files were deleted.

	danw: Some people were ping-flooding the dialup subnet
		(18.184).  tcpdump was lying to us so it took much
		longer to figure out what was going on.
	jhawk disbelieves, discussion offlines.

	ghudson: It's after drop date.  Locker maintainers should
		probably avoid making serious changes.

Computer Services:

	mhpower: Some people have noticed that zhm sometimes dumps
		core.  Affects dandelion-patch and snork (under
		Linux).

	jhawk: AFS server kernels were updated to deal with the land.c
		vulnerability.

	jfmurphy: I talked to Karen Hersey from MIT Intellectual
		Property Council; mwhitson is answering some questions
		they had about the squid cache.
	jhawk: It would be good if we could get a written response
		which we could look at in the future for internal
		reference and citation purposes.  Getting it orally is
		really bad.

SIPB Backup Report:

	kretch: AFS didn't happen.  It will tomorrow.
	tlyu: I heard a rumor that the new drive is not working.
		Backups were not done.

Publications Report:

	We have publications.

R/O Report:

	'()

IAP Report:

	tlyu: I am not doing the Postscript class this IAP.  I believe
		biomorph has offered to do it.

	kretch: The IAP Expo was today.  We gave out flyers.  I move
		that we allocate $18 to cover the cost of the flyers
		we handed out.
	[White ballot.]

	kretch: The IAP Guide comes out tomorrow.

	xela: I'd like to suggest that we put a slide up at the last
		two movies of the term saying what IAP classes we're
		offering.  We could also run it during IAP.  Total
		cost would be under $100.
	yonah: Why do we really care about publicizing our classes
		that much?
	[Some discussion about appropriateness of extra publicity.]
	jhawk: I think publicity is a good thing.
	yandros: Do we have that good an idea of who's teaching what
		classes yet?
	kretch: yes, it's on the flyers.
	jhawk: I move to allocate up to $100 to do slides at the last
		two LSC movies of the term to publicize our IAP
		classes.
	Alex volunteers to make the slides.
	[Motion fails 5-5-7.]
	srz and yonah clarify that they voted no because they didn't
		think it was worth the money.

	nygren: I would like help with my Introduction to Unix
		Software Development class.  I'd like to add maybe an
		hour's worth of stuff on CVS and Autoconf.  Talk to
		me.

CokeComm Report:

	'()

Other:

	mhpower: In the minutes of last week's meeting, my primary
		objection to the squid cache was omitted.  It was that
		it's a service that once we started running, we would
		have to keep it running, and we probably have enough
		server maintainers.

Other Other:

	jhawk: LSC Gencom in 3-270 at 8:00.

	svalente: In all likelihood, Redhat 5.0 became available
		today.  Red Hat-Athena 4.2 is still not available yet.
	kcr: Sal, would you care to comment on the likelihood of
		Redhat-Athena 4.2 being available before NetBSD-Athena
		1.3?
	kcr: It does appear that Redhat 5.0 is available at the
		moment.

	jered: Sprint PCS became active in our area and I just got a
		Q-Phone.
	yonah: I think Marc is still beating Jered.

	There may be a snowball fight in Killian after LSC Gencom.

	Shabby is in Minnesota and is coming back tomorrow.

The meeting was adjourned at 19:46.


	Minutes taken and submitted by ghudson.