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From: smg6@po.CWRU.Edu (S. Max Golem)
To: smg6@thor.INS.CWRU.Edu
Subject: Randy King on discussion problem 2.
Reply-To: smg6@po.CWRU.Edu (S. Max Golem)



Hi --

Randy King has done some thinking on discussion problem 2.  Here are
his thoughts:
>
>Well, here is my (aggressive as usual) approach starting with black
>at a, white b, etc.
>
>
>> >This position is shown in the following diagram: 
>> > 
>> >   A B C D E F G H J K L M N O P Q R S T 
>> >19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 
>> >18 . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . 18 
>> >17 . # # O . . . . . . O . . O . . # . . 17 
>> >16 . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . # . . . 16 
>> >15 . . # . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 
>> >14 . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . # a . . 14 
>> >13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 
>> >12 . . # . . . . . . . . . . . i . O . . 12 
>> >11 . . . . . . . . . . . h . d j b . . . 11 
>> >10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . # . . 10 
>> > 9 . . O . . . . . . . . . . g . c . . .  9 
>> > 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  8 
>> > 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  7 
>> > 6 . . O . . . . . . . . . k . . O O f .  6 
>> > 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . # e .  5 
>> > 4 . . . O . . . . . . . . . # . . # . .  4 
>> > 3 . . O . . # . . # . . . . . . # . . .  3 
>> > 2 . . . # . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  2 
>> > 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  1 
>> >   A B C D E F G H J K L M N O P Q R S T 
>> > 
>
>I won't presume any moves after 'd' or so are accurate as I
>devoted less than ten minutes to analysis, but I think the fight
>is good for black as both white groups are weak.  I think white
>would likely omit f to connect the groups, allowing black to
>connect underneath.  Comments?
>
>  In response to David Mechner's comments --

>> >dependent on the stones nearby.  For example, consider the following 
>> >diagram: 
>> > 
>> >   A B C D E F G H J K L M N O P Q R S T 
>> >19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 
>> >18 . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . 18 
>> >17 . # # O . . . . . . O . h O . . # . . 17 
>> >16 . . . . O . . . . . . . . g . # . . . 16 
>> >15 . . # . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 
>> >14 . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . # . . . 14 
>> >13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . 13 
>> >12 . . # . . . . . . . . . . d f b O . . 12 
>> >11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . e . . . . 11 
>> >10 . . . . . . . . . . . . i . . . # . . 10
>> > 9 . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  9 
>> > 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  8 
>> > 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . c . .  7 
>> > 6 . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  6 
>> > 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  5 
>> > 4 . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  4 
>> > 3 . . O . . # . . # . . . . . . # . . .  3 
>> > 2 . . . # . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  2 
>> > 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  1 
>> >   A B C D E F G H J K L M N O P Q R S T 
>> > 
>> > 
>
>Here the fight is easier for black, but I have done even
>less analysis this time.  Black should be able to form 
>a nice moyo on the bottom right side.
>
>Randy King
>
>
Thanks, Randy.

Bye, 
Max.