From jik@pit-manager.MIT.EDU Tue Sep 1 22:09:07 1992 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 09:48:37 -0400 From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" Sender: jik@pit-manager.MIT.EDU To: marthag@Athena.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: marthag@Athena.MIT.EDU's message of Tue, 1 Sep 92 00:46:50 -0400 <9209010446.AA12126@w20-575-43> Subject: clari.local.* groups Just out of curiosity, how did you get that list of groups that I didn't create? I've been watching the nightly reports from the news severs, creating any clari.local groups that show up under the "top 5 unknown newsgroups" listing. None of those have shown up, as far as I can tell. You listed clari.local.nevada twice :-). You create a newsgroup by logging into the news server as news, or logging in as root and su'ing to news, and using the "addgroup" command. It has five possible syntaxes. Creat a normal, unmoderatd group: addgroup group.name y Create a moderated group: addgroup group.name m Create a group alias to another group: addgroup group.name =other.group.name Add a group to our active file but say that we don't want to get any of the articles in it: addgroup group.name n Add a group to our active file but say that the group is "bogus." addgroup group.name x The behavior of 'n' and 'x' groups is similar, but slightly different. I'm not sure of the details. You should take the list of groups you sent me, put "addgroup " at the beginning of each line, put the resulting commands in a file, and run that file as "news" on each of the news servers (beacon, snork, picayune). If you don't have access to any of the servers, let me know and I can do it. jik P.S. Thanks for taking the package for me! 1,, Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by po5.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA00846; Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:31:50 EDT Received: from HODGE.MIT.EDU by Athena.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA11125; Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:31:46 EDT From: marthag@Athena.MIT.EDU Received: by hodge (5.57/4.7) id AA27808; Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:31:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9209022231.AA27808@hodge> To: usenet@Athena.MIT.EDU Cc: marthag@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: clari.local.* groups Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 18:31:40 EDT *** EOOH *** From: marthag@Athena.MIT.EDU To: usenet@Athena.MIT.EDU Cc: marthag@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: clari.local.* groups Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 18:31:40 EDT I created the following groups locally on beacon and picayune: clari.local.alberta clari.local.arizona clari.local.bc clari.local.manitoba clari.local.maritimes clari.local.maryland clari.local.nevada clari.local.new_hampshire clari.local.ontario clari.local.oregon clari.local.saskatchewan clari.local.utah clari.local.louisiana.briefs clari.local.new_england.briefs clari.local.sfbay.briefs However I could not create them on snork because when I log on there, it says the news system is locked by relaynews. What should I do about this? Martha From wesommer@Athena.MIT.EDU Thu Sep 3 15:58:39 1992 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:52:30 -0400 From: Bill Sommerfeld To: marthag@Athena.MIT.EDU Cc: usenet@Athena.MIT.EDU, marthag@Athena.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: Martha H Greenberg's message of Wed, 02 Sep 92 18:31:40 EDT, <9209022231.AA27808@hodge> Subject: Re: clari.local.* groups From: marthag@Athena.MIT.EDU Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 18:31:40 EDT I created the following groups locally on beacon and picayune: clari.local.alberta clari.local.arizona clari.local.bc clari.local.manitoba clari.local.maritimes clari.local.maryland clari.local.nevada clari.local.new_hampshire clari.local.ontario clari.local.oregon clari.local.saskatchewan clari.local.utah clari.local.louisiana.briefs clari.local.new_england.briefs clari.local.sfbay.briefs However I could not create them on snork because when I log on there, it says the news system is locked by relaynews. What should I do about this? It's simple: touch /news/spool/in.coming/stop ps auxww | grep relaynews wait for that process to go away. run the addgroup commands rm /news/spool/in.coming/stop - Bill