Received: from ATHENA-AS-WELL.MIT.EDU by po6.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA23927; Wed, 19 Jan 94 18:18:49 EST Received: from BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA20191; Wed, 19 Jan 94 18:18:41 EST Received: by bloom-beacon.mit.edu (5.61/25-eef) id AA15294; Wed, 19 Jan 94 17:58:16 EST Received: from [141.199.8.55] by bloom-beacon.mit.edu with SMTP (5.61/25-eef) id AA15255; Wed, 19 Jan 94 17:58:05 EST Received: from asp.camb.inmet.com.camb.inmet.com by dsd.camb.inmet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06550; Wed, 19 Jan 94 17:57:56 EST Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 17:57:56 EST From: justin@dsd.camb.inmet.com (Mark Waks) Message-Id: <9401192257.AA06550@dsd.camb.inmet.com> Received: by asp.camb.inmet.com.camb.inmet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12553; Wed, 19 Jan 94 17:57:56 EST To: odlin@reed.edu Cc: carolingia@bloom-beacon.mit.edu In-Reply-To: (message from Iain Odlin on Wed, 19 Jan 94 14:50:15 -0800) Subject: Re: [R. Gilbert: Re: jumping into the fray... ] Iain asks: > Okay; I'll bite. Would someone be so kind as to define "Carolingia" for > me? I may be labouring under a large misapprehension here. There are two senses of the word. One is the simple, literal sense of the place. The other is "Carolingia Status Mentis Est", "Carolingia is a State of Mind", the baronial motto. This is how we've wound up with "Carolingians" who have never lived within 300 miles of the Barony... -- Justin Random Quote du Jour: "What I don't understand is Hobbes' name. Was he named after the 17th century philosopher who characterised life in the state of nature as "nasty, brutish, and short"? But it is Calvin who is nasty, brutish and short." -- Edward Nilges