Received: from SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by po8.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA04673; Mon, 5 Oct 98 11:12:07 EDT Received: from xkey.com by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA04235; Mon, 5 Oct 98 11:12:02 EDT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by xkey.com id HAA02383 for minstrel-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:56:48 -0700 Received: (from smtp@localhost) by xkey.com id HAA02377 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:56:46 -0700 Received: from unknown(205.228.212.242) by xkey.com via smtp (V1.3) id sma002373; Mon Oct 5 07:56:44 1998 Received: from exchange.Urocor_1 (exchange [10.1.30.2]) by mail (2.0 Build 2144 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA02568 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 1998 09:43:15 -0500 Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) id <4J9XBANT>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:55:43 -0500 Message-Id: From: John Ruble To: minstrel@pbm.com Subject: RE: minstrel: Bardic, Period, and assorted rantings... Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:55:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Sender: owner-minstrel@rt.com Precedence: bulk Gregory, copying the original words of Mathurin, also composed: > > >Historically, there were many minstrels who were > > >neither poets nor composers. > > > > But none of note. Creativity has always been the mark of, and often > > reserved to, the mastery of an art. > > I disagree, and I challenge you to prove your point. Only the people > that _you_ note may be composers, but there were many celebrated > non-composing instrumentalists throughout history, considered masters > of performance. And there were masters of composition who couldn't > perform their way out of a paper bag. > I hate to admit it, but I have to agree with Gregory. His statement is correct, and upon reflection I can think of some examples. I was ready to tear into him, too... sniff. I will then fall back on the inarguable: in MY persona's time... A man who could perform poetry, songs, or stories was well respected. A man who could compose poetry, songs, or stories was well respected. A man who could do both was more respected. But it is the composer whose name lives on with the work, and for a Northman that is the greatest glory. I cannot argue, though, with the fact that non-composing performers sometimes got paid real well and could develop followings of beautiful young women. This is a good thing to a Northman, too... Ulf Gunnarsson (who is about to wipe out his e-mail system in frustration... Why can't we just have couriers carry these things back and forth?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send email to majordomo@pbm.com containing the words "unsubscribe minstrel". If you are subscribed to the digest version, say "unsubscribe minstrel-digest". To contact a human about problems, send mail to owner-minstrel@pbm.com