From: levey@netcom.com (Don Levey)
Message-Id: <199401190232.SAA08622@mail.netcom.com>
Subject: Principality, of course
To: carolingia@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Carolingian Mailing List)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 18:32:43 -0800 (PST)
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(quote from memory, please excuse mistakes):

"When in the course of human events, it becomes time for one nation
to0 sever the bonds connecting it to another..."

To me, there wouldn't be a debate on the abstract issue of principality.
There has been, for a number of years, significant and constant discontent
at the state of Eastern administration and geography.  I remember this
5 years ago, I remember this just before I left (2.5 years), and of course
it is happening now.

As another Carolingian in exile,  I see the main question as to whether
Carolingia should be included with groups to the North, or the South.
My personal preference would be to go with the South.  I feel we have
more in common with these groups, and as Katherine has stated, our presence
in the Northern region would be unfair to those groups.

What do we lose by allowing the Northern region to split off from
the rest of the kingdom?  We will still have our friends, we may gain allies,
and we may even reduce the Eastern Beaurocracy (famed in the West, at leasr
to those I talk to) to a more manageable size.

So what do we do, and who do we listen to?  I would be interested to see
how a group in Bikhail will have its interests served by voting to allow
(or deny) Malagentia (both examples only) to break off.  I would suggest
that the principality vote/poll be linked with the inclusion of the area
in question.  This way, those contiguous areas/branches who vote for 
the principality are also voting for inclusion in that principality.
A group who feels that the "system" of the East, whether administrative or
monarchal, is not serving their best interests should be allowed to
leave so as not to foster discontent.  To some involved, they will walk
regardless.  The question is then whether they leave the kingdom or
the society.

Purveyor of random mutterings,
 -Don
 
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