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Date: 07 Oct 98 11:31:02 -0500
From: Crystal Simpson <cab@scientific.com>
Subject: FWD: Re: What filk *isn't* (was minstrel: Re: To All Filkers )
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I think that their are two ideas here that are different.  I thought that =
Filk referred to any piece that was new words to an old tune.   While this =
person (I am sorry, I forgot who sent this initially) uses the term Filf =
to refer to something else.  Actually, I am not really sure what you =
definition is.

To me, you are lumping a number of things in together, and I thought that =
I would lay them out as I think of them.

1) Boyscout songs - these are songs that while they may be cute, they have =
nothing to do with the SCA and seem to be more appropriate for teenage =
boys around a campfire.  I definitely agree that these do not belong in =
public areas at SCA events.

2) Filk "Outside looking in" (I really like that title, I think I will =
start referring to them that way) like "God rest ye merry autocrat".  I =
have always thought of these as "Denny's Songs" similar to what you are =
referring to as "Post Revel Songs" basically, related to the SCA, but NOT =
midieval in any way.  Best to do these at some non-event sca-dian =
gathering.

3) Midieval-like - but not period.  The people that I have been singing =
with locally and I have discussed what we think is appropriate for events. =
 We came to the conclusion that we felt like, it was okay to perform a =
piece at an event "if it did NOT yank the average SCA-dian back to modern =
life".  ex: no mention of cars, events, etc.  Now granted, if you are a =
scholar of period music, you will be able to differentiate between period =
and Midieval-Like music, and you might think that anything not actually =
period yanks you back to modern. But, we were considering the average =
ansteorrean for this purpose.  Now, in my opinion, there are many things =
that fall into this category - which includes most original pieces, filks (=
original words to existing music), many "folk" songs, etc.

4) Period.  Actual documentable period pieces.

From what I have seen, at most events in Ansteorra, public bardic circles =
consist of about 1% Type 1&2, 80% Midieval-like music and 19% Period music.=
  Does anyone from Ansteorra have a different opinion on that?  Do other =
kingdoms have a higher proportion of Period songs?

Crystal
Ansteorra

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> Part of why I really don't like hearing filk at events is that the
> majority of it *is* from the outside-looking-in perspective.  That
> makes it interesting and revelent to us as people, but it's *really*
> at odds with the atmosphere.


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