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Subject: Feb Council Minutes
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 16:27:44 -0500
From: Tom Coveney <tcoveney@ccs.neu.edu>

                       Minutes of Carolingian Great Council Meeting
                                     February 7, 1994
Meeting called to order at: 7:22 PM

                                        Officers:
Deputy Seneschal Eowyn Eilonwy of Alewife Brook:: Hi.
Arts and Sciences Anton of Winteroak: There is a new guild for Woodworkers. 
Contact 
Harald Longfellow if you are interested.
Golden Gryphon Tibor of Rock Valley: I have to cancel the heraldic commenting 
session set 
for February 9th. It is rescheduled for Tuesday February 22 at my house.
Knight Marshall Sebastian Nightwind:  There was one fighting event 2 days ago. 
I 
appreciate all who were there and participated.
Chronicler Alexander of Kiev: Hi.
Mistress of Lists Torogene Kazakh:: Hi, there was a tournament on Saturday. I 
trained a 
mistress of lists. If you are interested in training to be a mistress of lists 
(but not 
necessarily taking over her job as Carolingian Mistress of Lists) please 
contact me.
Mistress of Fencing Lists Guendalina Francesca di Antonio Cristiano: Hi, there 
was a 
fencing tournament on Saturday; there were 26 fencers who participated.
Historian-Librarian Caitlin Davies: People have been giving me newsletters. 
This is 
good.
Secretary Guendalina Francesca di Antonio Cristiano:: Hi.
Magister Stefan Skywatcher: We have new people. Many did not stay for court on 
Saturday, 
so they were not introduced to the barony. In the report from the kingdom, I 
was named 
Deputy Chatelaine for Central Region.
Hot line Taran of Windy Hill:: We still has a telephone; we have mail. I want 
to dispel 
the myths that Carolingia is not a kingdom, Justin is not a duke, Patri is not 
Emperor, 
Kobayashi is not Executive Director and Tibor is not Seneschal.
Dance Roselyne Sarah L'estrangere and Daniel of Falling Rocks:  There is a 
question as to 
whether there will be dance practice this week. If you normally attend and 
will not be 
able to attend this week, please talk to us.
Steward-Hospitaller Sebastian Nightwind:
_Any one who is certified and would like to help Arianwen out should contact 
her.
_ Is there any interest in a CPR class for the barony [ there is overall 
general 
interest]
Marshal of Fence Morgaine ferch Cadwr: 
_Lots of people were at the fencing tournament on Saturday, they had fun. 
_Fencing practice continues, although it now starts at 6:00 PM.
Seneschal of the Towers Theodwine of Faulconbridge: Last month we didn't have 
a meeting 
due to the weather. This months meeting is at Peter and Yona's house on the 
third Monday 
(February 21).
                                         Guilds:
Jongleurs Tibicen Blackmane: We sang and played at the event. Whether or not 
we will 
play at dance practice will depend on whether dance practice is happening. We 
will sing 
at Maslenitsa. If you want live music for dancing at your event, please talk 
to me, and 
not just the Dance master/mistress.
Worshipful Company of Brewers and Vinters Morgaine ferch Cadwr: Next meeting 
is Saturday 
February 26th at my house. It will be on Basic Mead brewing. They will 
demonstrate how 
to do this, and have kits available for you to purchase.
Calligrapher's Guild Anton of Winteroak:: There are biweekly meetings being 
held on three 
college campuses_Brandeis - Mondays; Boston University - Wednesdays, 7 - 7:45 
PM; mitgaard 
- To be determined. There are also meetings at my house on Tuesdays.
Cooks Guild Dante de Felice:  The next meeting is on February 27th at Mistress 
Johanna's 
house. March's meeting is on March 20, site to be determined, and will be on 
Pasta. Last 
months meeting on carving and sauces went well. She thanked Tibor and Mordoc 
for help and 
lessons in carving.
Baron's Troupe of Mummers Aleksander Yevsha: 
_Knight of the Burning Pestle rehearsals continue. It will go off, no matter 
what, at the 
St. George's day event. 
_If anyone is interested in being in a performance of MacBeth to be put on at 
Pennsic, 
please contact Sir Thorgeirr.
Commedia del'arte Sebastian Nightwind:  Rehearsals are Tuesdays Evenings in a 
new room 
(Building 66, room 168)
Needleworker's Guild Jehanneton d'abbeville: Next meeting is Thursday, 
February 24th at 
7:30 PM at Random Hall (290 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge). It will be on 
making hoods 
that fit.
Pike Company Torogene Kazakh :  We are getting some interest at practice.
Rapier Company  Morgaine : As of Saturday, I amthe new Captain. Corwyn will be 
staying on 
as Lieutenant for a while, and then taking a must deserved respite. If you are 
interested 
in fencing, talk to me. At the event on Saturday we raised $810 for the 
Company. We will 
now have more, better loaner gear.
Soothsayers Emmanuelle of Southbank: Hi, we sort of exist. maybe we'll have a 
meeting 
next month if my work hours become more stable.
Storytellers Aleksandr Yevsha: We met last month, it was wonderful. This 
months meeting 
is on the 15th at my home in Allston at 7:30 PM. If you need directions, call.
_Franz:  Carolingian Pleiad (poets) will no longer have formal meetings, if 
you want to 
read poetry, you should go to Storytellers.
Fools Guild Christian von Jauregk: [ note, he walks in just as Kobayashi is 
calling his 
name] The fools are working on their sense of timing.
Peasants Daniel of Falling Rocks:  Its cold, rocks don't grow well in the cold.
Woodworkers Marion of Edwinstowe:  They continue to meeting on the First 
Sunday of the 
month at the Buttery
                                        Boroughs:
Duncharloch Devin McLachlan: I would like to introduce a new member. (He 
introduces the 
dragon puppet he purchased at the auction on Saturday). 
sca-list@husc.harvard.edu is up, 
running and updated.
Felding Juliana d' Antioche:  There is a demo on Thursday, February 10. Flyers 
are up 
front. People should talk to me if you are going to be there so we can 
coordinate what 
people are bringing and what they will be saying.
Fenmere Bess of Fenmere and Isolde of Esprilia:: We are the autocrats of 
Mayday. Since 
this is our first attempt at autocratting, if we haven't gotten ahold of you 
and you think 
we need to talk to us, please come see us. Mayday will be Sunday, May 1.
Ivory Keep Rebecca Schoenberg:  Hi.
Mitgaard Teleri the Truthful:  Hi.
Southbanke Brian Filgore: Hi.
                                     Baronial Orders:
Order of the Daystar Eowyn Eilonwy of Alewife Brook: We haven't organized a 
meeting yet.
Order of the Moon Kobayashi Yutaka: We are happy to announce the induction of 
two new 
members at the last event: Dante and Tibicin.
Order of the Perseus Danulf Donaldson:  Give me suggestions.
                                       Households:
House Chat Gris Patri du Chat Gris: Hi
House Windsmeet Susan: MacGregor: Yelizaveta Medivedeva was made a member of 
our 
household at the last event
House Aelwyd Corwyn ap Gruffith Cynnil: Hi
Domus Phonicis Rhys Woolf: We've been doing a lot lately.
House Silverwing Steffan ap Cennydd of Silverwing: We're thinking about 
forming a 
non-profit organization -- just kidding.
                                   Autocrats of Events:
Winter Frolic Tibor of Rock Valley: I have not had a chance to do the report. 
I believe we 
made approximately $180 because we did not have to pay the $100 cleaning fee, 
and some 
people did not show up. The armory can't wait until the next time.
Maslenitsa Aleksandr Yevsha: We had to change sites because the Boston City 
Board of 
Education proved to be too much to handle. The new site is in Waltham, the 
Kennedy Middle 
School. It is the same site as the St. George's day event. I am trying to talk 
to the 
Janitor about turning the showers on so that the fighters can take showers. I 
have some 
reservations but not many. I need to know soon because we're going to have a 
suckling pig 
as part of the feast and we have to have a better count on the numbers to know 
what size 
to have. I am looking for a marshall and MOL for the heavy list tournament.
Feast of St. George Christian von Jauregk: Things proceed apace. The event is 
April 
23rd. Guendalina is taking reservations. I know there are a lot of events 
going on that 
day, but ignore the other announcements and come to my event.
Mayday Bess of Fenmere and Isolde of Estrilla : It is on May 1, 10 AM - 10 PM 
on Chapel's 
field at Brandeis.
_Anton:  I hope for the sake of the barony that they find a less potent green 
man this 
year.
Ladies' Champion Tournament 
_Marion of Edwinstowe: - We are still looking for a site. There will be no 
reservations 
since this will be a free event.
Eowyn Eilonwy of Alewife Brook: : The date is June 18.
                                      Other reports:
 Baron and Baroness Patri du Chat Gris and Barbara Viggiani Milanese: Hi.
Company of Bowmen Peter the Red:  Taran: The next meeting is a Fletching 
workshop on 
February 17th at Li Kung-Lo's house at 6:30 PM.
Academy of Rapier Patri du Chat Gris:  Meetings will shift to Tuesdays with 
the first 
meeting being February 15th. People who attend that meeting will decide which 
Tuesdays 
the group will meet thereafter.
Treasurer Rowan Kalkin:  We have $4,145 in uncommitted funds and $3,639 
available.

Seneschal Kobayashi Yataka: I think that there is a lot of furor over the 
Board's ruling. 
I have a feeling that my views could become difficult to separate from the 
Barony's.
There are various schools of thought on this issue:
1. The decision may or may not be procedurally valid
2. The decision may or may not be in step with the values of the Society
3. The decision may or may not endanger the Society's status as a non profit 
education 
institution.
4. Even people who agree with some of the decisions may be finding it hard to 
support the 
decision.
I think there are 4 main reasons people are objecting:
1. to the policy itself
2. to the way the policy was implemented
3. to what this policy might indicate for the future direction of the Society
4. on the general priciple that there is nothing you can do.
Whatever ways you might go about voicing your objection, everyone should write 
letters to 
the Royalty and the Board. One of the best defenses they have used in the past 
to let 
issues slip by is that although the objectors are sincere, they are in the 
minority.. It 
is the job of the people to let them know. It is possible that Carolingia is 
in the 
minority, but the only way to get information is if people tell the Board how 
they feel. 
The Barony will underwrite the cost of postage for letters to the Board, 
Corporate Office, 
King, Queen, Kingdom Senschal. Give letters to Eowyn. It is good to send 
individual 
letters rather than form letters because individual letters will need to be 
looked at and 
thought over individually.
       The petition for impeachment is also a good thing. If nothing gets 
changed, then 
at some point in the future (assuming there is enough signatures), the Board 
will have to 
act on this letter of impeachment. This only means that they will have a vote 
on their 
removal.  This will only be effective if the Board wants to change. If they 
don't then 
it will be each members own decision to make on how to proceed.
       There has been a suggestion made on the net that people wear black 
armbands if you 
feel some action should be made against the Board. This is a way to gauge how 
widespread 
sentiment against the decision is. The Board likes quantifiable numbers, and 
this is a 
way to quantify sentiment (It is also suggested that any color armband is 
acceptable to 
make the statement).
       Basically, my position is to write letters, bide, talk to anyone, and 
hope the 
Board wakes up and sees what a mess it has made come April, and hope for the 
best.

It was noted that what should be dropped off to Eowyn is letters in envelopes, 
addressed 
to the appropriate people. She will not be photocopying and making envelopes 
for letters.
It was also noted that it would be good to cc: to the Kingdom Seneschal since 
they have as 
much power as the Royalty to impeach. Also, both paid and non paid members 
should write 
explaining how this decision will affect their activity in the SCA. April 
Council meeting 
will be the cutoff for for giving Eowyn letters, however sooner would be 
better.
Eowyn will be accepting letters:
Great Council: March and April
Vocal Jongleurs Practice: Through March
BoD Response meetings; February 9, February 24
Start of Dance Practice: Through March
Pikestaff Party: Februay 17
                                       Old Business

Sound system. Business remanded. If there is no interest next month, it will 
be dropped.

                                       New Business
Emilia Mazzo de Novella 
King and Queen had a meeting with the Kingdom officers last weekend. They felt 
it was 
useful to write to the King and Queen and Seneshal. The King also urges people 
to write 
to the Board. He does not fully support impeachment. He encourages people to 
write 
letters.


                                Announcements SCA related
Alexander Makarska: 1. There are further meetings to discuss things. Schedule 
is 
posted:
Meeting is on Febraury 9: the five groups will meet at 7:30 PM at MIT. The 
rooms are as 
follows.
Room          Coordinator           Group
1-203         Danulf        Pursuing other options
1-242         Siubhan       Not accepting/ working around/passively resisting
1-246         Tibor                 Impeach & replace BoD, addressing current 
BoD
                                     concerns
1-273         Diego                 Create a new national corporation
1-277         Vissevald             "Kingdom of the East, Inc."

On Thursday Feb 24 there will be a general meeting at 7 PM in 10-250.     
2. If you are interested in seeing what the Board has to say there is a copy 
of the 
letter from the Board, a factual summary and the petition up front.
Elayne Courtenay: We are starting a Lady of the Month Club. Each segment will 
meet for 2 
months, meeting every other Wednesday. These sessions will be working sessions 
for a 
particular time and place. The goal is that by the end of the two month period 
everyone 
should have a full piece of garb from that particular period. This is geared 
for all from 
beginner to expert. The first meeting is February 16. The topic is Yorkist. It 
is at 
my house. It starts at 6:30 PM, or 6 PM (bring something for Potluck).
Aeronwy Morgan: There is a sign posted where we sign up for rooms that there 
is to be no 
eating in MIT rooms. Therfore lets do what all the MIT students do and make 
sure our 
wrappers all end up in the waste baskets.
Aleksander Yevsha: Middle Eastern drum and dance next meeting is Thursday 
February 24 in 
16-310. Anyone who is interested is welcome.
Harold Longfellow: Woodworkers meet the first Sunday of the month. The next 
meeting is 
March 6, 11AM - 5 PM at Buttery. Anyone who is interested can attend.
Torogene Kazokh: If you are interested in performing in MacBeth at the War, 
call Sir 
Thorgierr (ph: 734-2574 ask for Mike). Also, Sherry Kaplowitz is in the 
hospital. 
Emilia Mazzo de Novella: I am looking for a typist for Pikestaff. I am also 
looking for 
people for lick and stamp. The next lick and stamp is Feb 17th at Juliana, 
Roselyn and 
Daniel's house.
Caitlin Davies: I am taking reservations for Maslenitsa. I am cooking for St. 
George's 
day and looking for kitchen staff.
Morgaine Ferch Cadwr: Many of the fencers are going to the Northern and 
Central Regional 
Fencing on March 12. Talk to me if you're interested.
Guendalina Francesca di' Antonio Cristiano: I am taking reservations for St. 
George's day 
They are $11 on board or $6 off board.
Siubhan Nic Cruimein: Please volunteer for Gate at Maslenitsa. It is only 1 
hour of your 
time.
Elayne Courtenay: I am doing Pennsic class scheduling if you want to teach.
Brendon Olthurssan Veassullurd: There were two new gold cords given at the 
event on 
Saturday to Morgaine and Antonio
Avelina Perceval:. If you want the notes from the meeting Anton organized, see 
me.
                                   Announcements Other
Guendalina Francesca di' Antonio Cristiano: We are looking for a Housemate. We 
live in 
Everett. It's $350 per month plus utilities, if you are interested, please 
talk to me.
Marion of Edwinstowe: Battlefield bakery is going to Pennsic. If you are 
interested in 
cooking for it, contact me.
Zacchary Kessin: I need a job. [ someone asks "What do you do"] Zacchary - 
Almost 
anything.
Harald Longfellow. I am having a Valentines dance, ragtime, tango and waltz on 
February 
13. It you are interested, tell them your SCA at the door, and you can get in 
for half 
price.
Rose Otter: I have free stuff - a futon and some wood, if you can take it 
away, its 
yours.
Tibicen Blackmane: 
_ If you are not going to the Felding Demo, there is a performance of Beowolf 
happening.
_People who think they can't sing and might be interested in a Vocal Boot camp 
should talk 
to me.
Christian von Jaueregk: The 24 hour Coolidge Corner Science Fiction Festival 
is Sunday 
February 20-Monday February 21. Cost is $24 before February 10 or $26 after 
February 10.
Emilia mazzo de Novella: I am looking for Sound Volunteers for NEFFA (New 
England Folk 
Festival) (April 22- April 24). See me for more information.
Julianna d'Antioche: Looking for a PC Hardware expert to help her with her PC.

Next Meeting: March 7, 1994, Bldg 6, Rm 120
Meeting adjourned: 8:35 PM
       Respectfully submitted,
              Guendalina Francesca di Antonio Cristiano